Clevo 351 in XF Falcon/ZL Fairlane/FE LTD?

[SXE357 91]

Hi guys, 

 

Has anyone had any experience with a 351 in any of the XF series cars, with the different firewall?

 

I have fitted an ZL Fairlane Firewall into my XE, which has also had a 351 fitted, as the firewall protrudes further into the Engine bay, there is very little space between the rear of the 351 and the firewall, this causes the problem of the heater hoses bending at an extreme angle and/or coming in contact with the engine.

Im trying to find a work around, maybe 90 degree elbows flush up against the firewall, and the hoses running out from there.

Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

[TUFE 284]

Can you cut and shut the firewall to move the outlets?

[wagoon 2,429]

Move the engine forward?

[XES 859]

Does it use the the AC? If not run your heater hoses through the ac condenser.

[revhead 1,392]

easy conversion dont cut shit ,,get a die grinder ,elongate the holes on the engine xmember forward, then get cleveland engine mount platesan elongate holes to the rear 1 inch on both parts, with the heater hoses stick a small piece of wooden dowl in them an gently pull upwards being careful not to break or split them, you dont need to hit cut belt the fire wall just leave it alone ,you will however have to get rid of that stupid fire wall pad, and trim down those long heater studs,

 

you will need to get power steering hoses made

 

use v8  xd xe radiator or xf 2x core heave duty radiator

 

if u need more info please ask as ive done this conversion heaps of times ,

[SXE357 91]

Gidday Revhead, 

 

That is gold, thank you, this is what I will now do.

 

Awesome information.

[revhead 1,392]

no probs bloke any time

[bear351c 10,270]

Agreed. +1.

 

I use an XF rad on my 351, no issues. (with a shroud, and proper spacing boss)

[SXE357 91]

I was thinking about the ZL Fairlane radiator, is in very good knick, would that be suitable?

[Free.51 2,717]

Same same.

[revhead 1,392]

yeah thatl work,fine

[SXE357 91]

Gidday ReVhEaD, 

 

Is bending the pipes up the only way to go? Im assuming that is so you can still get the heater box out if you need to?

 

I don't have a firewall pad in the engine bay, and when you say trim down the long heater studs, they are what the nuts go onto to hold the heater box to the firewall?

 

Cheers

 

[revhead 1,392]

yes ,but its not the only way you can pull the dash  n play with the heater outlets ,how much room have u got back there, and yes the long heater studs 

[Mr Polson 10,214]

I've been told you can remove the heater core and rotate it 180° which moves the outlets up towards the AC pipes.

[SXE357 91]

Not sure how much room, not a lot though, RevHead. 

Will be having a good look at it over the weekend, will work out a solution, but I think moving the engine forward and bending the heater pipes is the way to go as you suggest 

[revhead 1,392]

as the others sugested you can use the air con pipes for the heater so long as the condensor hasnt got a hole init 

[Mr Polson 10,214]

I wouldn't recommend hooking the heater up to the A/C condenser.

I done it on my ute for a while, and the air from the vents was always warm, even if the heater selector was on cold. Switched back to normal heater outlets and it worked normally.

[SXE357 91]

I think I will stick to Redheads way of doing it, initial bit of messing around re elongating holes etc, but a better result over all with no modifying the firewall, and I do want the ar con to work.

Thanks for all your input Fellas.

[bear351c 10,270]

Sounds like a plan...

[revhead 1,392]

hhmm redhead,lol

[SXE357 91]

OOPS sorry mate, Fat finger syndrome... Redhead.....

[revhead 1,392]

arhh lol Revhead

[djjase 10]

Yep done it a few times. Here is pic of current 351 in a XF ute, prior to changing to gas research - shows where the heater hoses are 

 

[djjase 10]

I'm running a full XF Ghia digital dash too, everything works, even the adjustable steering column - also put in a AU console

 

[SXE357 91]

Thats funny, I wanted to use the adjustable steering column out of my ZL but for some reason it came out a lot further than the XE one, no matter how I played with it, it wouldnt fit. So I kept the original XE column, was disappointed.