RAWDEAL 222 Posted May 27, 2015 So i won this off of ebay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-5-4-V8-SOHC-220kw-BA-BF-dead-petrol-engine-suit-reco-or-rebuild-cheap-/381268813135?&autorefresh=true not even sure where to start with it . Ill prolly leave it in my shipping container untill the aussie dollar gets a bit stronger Has anyone here toyed around with one of these or any 5.4 into an earlier car? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashXFute 498 Posted May 27, 2015 There is a thread on here of a bloke who fitted one into a XE I think it was. Have a search Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted May 27, 2015 There is a thread on here of a bloke who fitted one into a XE I think it was. Have a search Ahh yeah i saw that . more interested in the motor side of things .. i want to get it spinning a little quicker than factory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashXFute 498 Posted May 27, 2015 CAI, cam and extractors are good place to start. Bigger throttle body, injectors and under drive pulleys are also popular. I had a quad cam 5.4 xr8 ute with only intake, cams and exhaust done and that pushed 380rwhp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted May 28, 2015 CAI, cam and extractors are good place to start. Bigger throttle body, injectors and under drive pulleys are also popular. I had a quad cam 5.4 xr8 ute with only intake, cams and exhaust done and that pushed 380rwhp thats pretty good man! what do they push out in standard form? i will get it tuned and ill have to make extractors for it to fit into the engine bay anyways i have not priced cams yet.. needs to be rebuilt so ill measure piston to valve clearances when i do and go from there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted May 29, 2015 Might need good rods.... Long-stroke engine designed originally for a truck means rpm wasn't a priority. Chip and exhaust could easily bring these up to Boss 260 spec, with better bottom end torque. Valve springs are a bit poo from stock. Plenty of go-fast bits available from trick-flow, etc. Fitting to an early falc probably needs strut conversion and tower notching kit. These are very wide engines like the DOHC versions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted May 30, 2015 Might need good rods.... Long-stroke engine designed originally for a truck means rpm wasn't a priority. Chip and exhaust could easily bring these up to Boss 260 spec, with better bottom end torque. Valve springs are a bit poo from stock. Plenty of go-fast bits available from trick-flow, etc. Fitting to an early falc probably needs strut conversion and tower notching kit. These are very wide engines like the DOHC versions. yeah ill have to get the measuring tape out to see what the go is with the dimensions (always easier to tell in real life , rather than a set of drawings) Howcome people keep telling me these have better low end torque than a DOHC? shouldnt it be the other way around ? Got the engine today and took the rocker covers off no fucking cam gears or phasers ?! ?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted May 30, 2015 DOHC = big valve area, low velocity SOHC = small.valve area, high velocity. Although those engines still have 2 inlets like a DOHC so that theory really shouldn't apply. More likely the tune of the engine than anything. Problem with the Boss motors was that by the time the heads started breathing properly, the long-stroke bottom end became the mechanical limit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted May 31, 2015 DOHC = big valve area, low velocity SOHC = small.valve area, high velocity. Although those engines still have 2 inlets like a DOHC so that theory really shouldn't apply. More likely the tune of the engine than anything. Problem with the Boss motors was that by the time the heads started breathing properly, the long-stroke bottom end became the mechanical limit. What did these rev out to in factory form? a good balance and aftermarket rods and pistons should see them revving fairly high? the OHC-type rocker and valve train setup should be good for a few revs? they are basically jesel-style shaft mount rockers from the factory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted May 31, 2015 They are a small bore, long stroke (90.2 x 105.8), undersquare much like a 250 crossy but even more so. That's over 4" of stroke, more than a 400. So whatever rpm constraints a crossy might have, these Barra 220s would be similar. I'd think a good limit to work with would be 6250, up from factory 5500 (I think). The highest rpm on a factory 5.4 was the Boss 315 at 6500. They'd have some quality bits in them I'd imagine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted May 31, 2015 They are a small bore, long stroke (90.2 x 105.8), undersquare much like a 250 crossy but even more so. That's over 4" of stroke, more than a 400. So whatever rpm constraints a crossy might have, these Barra 220s would be similar. I'd think a good limit to work with would be 6250, up from factory 5500 (I think). The highest rpm on a factory 5.4 was the Boss 315 at 6500. They'd have some quality bits in them I'd imagine. Yeah dunno about the crossflow comparison LOL . nearly everyone on this forum must sleep with a 250 crossflow on the other side of the bed at night Although that is true they are a long stroked motor. but i dont think it couldnt mean they could do 7000+ reliably with a good bottom end ect. 408 clevos do it It will be a while off , gotta wait for that damn us dollar to drop before i even think about ordering parts lol . 1 wagoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted May 31, 2015 nearly everyone on this forum must sleep with a 250 crossflow on the other side of the bed at night Please stop looking in our windows please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted May 31, 2015 Shhh..... my 4L is sleeping.... We dont ALL sleep with crossys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Polson 10,214 Posted June 1, 2015 I have crossflow, SOHC 4L, DOHC 4L, and Clevo all in my driveway/shed... And then a Windsor in a shed at my old man's... Hows that for a set of Falcon motors haha 1 Thom reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Free.51 2,717 Posted June 1, 2015 I have crossflow, SOHC 4L, DOHC 4L, and Clevo all in my driveway/shed... And then a Windsor in a shed at my old man's... Hows that for a set of Falcon motors haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Free.51 2,717 Posted June 1, 2015 U just need a big block now mate 1 Mr Polson reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dougie77 789 Posted June 1, 2015 Shhh..... my 4L is sleeping....We dont ALL sleep with crossys. 4L is just a crossflow with the cam on top Cortina for life 2 wagoon and Mr Polson reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gromet88 3,042 Posted June 1, 2015 I have crossflow, SOHC 4L, DOHC 4L, and Clevo all in my driveway/shed... And then a Windsor in a shed at my old man's... Hows that for a set of Falcon motors haha Now now dont start a competition you cant win 3 Ants, Thom and Mr Polson reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ants 6,370 Posted June 1, 2015 I have crossflow, SOHC 4L, DOHC 4L, and Clevo all in my driveway/shed... And then a Windsor in a shed at my old man's... Hows that for a set of Falcon motors haha What no boost? Not even a lil ol chev in a falcon? Amateurs. 2 Mr Polson and Thom reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,875 Posted June 1, 2015 I've got a Windsor in an F-truck... does that count? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,651 Posted June 1, 2015 I have crossflow, SOHC 4L, DOHC 4L, and Clevo all in my driveway/shed... And then a Windsor in a shed at my old man's... Hows that for a set of Falcon motors haha What no boost? Not even a lil ol chev in a falcon? Amateurs. Don't forget about the diesel f truck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FORD_MAN 1,026 Posted June 2, 2015 I've only got 8 crossflows, 3 SOHC & 4 or 5 Cleveland's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted June 2, 2015 I have crossflow, SOHC 4L, DOHC 4L, and Clevo all in my driveway/shed... And then a Windsor in a shed at my old man's... Hows that for a set of Falcon motors haha Lets just say i have bought a 20ft container to store engine stuff in lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SLO247 1,713 Posted June 2, 2015 I've got a Briggs and Stratton. 5 dougie77, wagoon, Mr Polson and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted June 3, 2015 I've got a Briggs and Stratton. Does it go hard ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
