Clevo120Y 815 Posted October 4, 2013 Hey guys, after some recommendations on kit to suit a speedway car, would like a digital readout so I can record it during a race. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 4, 2013 AEM or Inovate...I have a inovate but it doesn't log but as the display is easy enough for me to see it's not a issue...you won't have time to look in a speedway car really will you? Maybe a simple MS as your logger with the Inovate as the reader? 2 Clevo120Y and ILIED reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clevo120Y 815 Posted October 5, 2013 thanks Sly, I was just going to mount a go pro camera in the car to record the meter during a race, when he gets back in just watch it on the laptop and make tuning changes and go again. Any chance you got a link to your meter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted October 5, 2013 The innovate does log using the accompanied software but unless u got extra inputs like rpm amd vac its useless info. They do a complete stand alone kit with sensor and display for $200 on ebay and real easy to setup. 1 Clevo120Y reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted October 5, 2013 Just be weary of recording an lcd as they flicker so u need to shoot with a quicker frame rate to see it. 1 Clevo120Y reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XF0747 69 Posted October 5, 2013 innovative one by far the best on the market just put one in my car 1 Clevo120Y reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted October 5, 2013 I've run an AEM in my race car for the last four years. Burnt one sensor in that time but easy enough to get replacement (put it down to the methanol). Found them to be very accurate - same reading as a MOTEC unit I used on the dyno, so it was good enough for me. With careful positioning in the car you can read the dial as you are going down the straight, can't see the colour on the dial but the red led numbers are very easy to read, even for a bloke that is on the wrong side of 40. Have not used the innovate one so unable to comment. If they both have a bosch 5 wire sensor then I guess it comes down to personal preference. GoPro is the best speedway data logger you will ever get. You can 'hear' the engine and understand what is going on better than any one dimensional graph on a computer screen. 2 Clevo120Y and ILIED reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 5, 2013 thanks Sly, I was just going to mount a go pro camera in the car to record the meter during a race, when he gets back in just watch it on the laptop and make tuning changes and go again. Any chance you got a link to your meter This is what I use bred...http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/180728965085?lpid=87 a few wires and mounting and it's done. I like th Go-Pro idea for logging ALOT.It offers alot but a screen with every data point would be good to have aswell if your getting serious IMO. I got mine thru Q direct from the supplier but it wasn't $200 either ? Maybe $170ish I think? 1 Clevo120Y reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy2287 1,886 Posted October 5, 2013 http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/wideband-o2-systems-c-23.html your one come from there Sly^ when the aussie dollar was a lot stronger. Gopro VS datalogging? Both! They are both tools that can help, The camera especially if you have driver pedal and stick in the shot. Then your not only datalogging the sound and the track but the driver. But were the camera will hear a stumble or a pop... why? Where did it come form and what caused it? With a datalogger logging voltage, rpm, throttle pos, MAP, EGO, fuel pressure: you can not hear or feel but you can see the loss of spark or the drop in fuel pressure and examine the engine parameters around what caused it. VERY helpful at pinpointing possible causes immediately. With a much higher resolution than a video can capture. but anyway, yes, the innovate EGO's are a good unit. Mines been working perfectly since i got it. Depending on the fuel your using depends on the service life of the sensor. leaded fuels shorten the life a fair bit. Not sure about alcohols. 1 n00bus m@x1mus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted October 6, 2013 Yeah have to agree with you on both Q - if the budget allows it. Mine doesn't so I try to have all my engine tune and stuff sorted at the dyno prior to going to the track. Time is usually limited between heats so I don't know how much time you would get to analysis data but I'm sure if you had a member of the crew who was dedicated to that task and that task only it could be done. I mainly fitted my AFR gauge so that I could tune to variable conditions and when I eventually go away to other tracks sea levels etc. anyway get the innovate one clevo120y and we can see how it goes in a speedway application. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILIED 316 Posted October 6, 2013 I run an AEM on my street/bush F100. Its on LPG so I use Lambda, cos it didnt have a switch for LPG translation, every other fuel.I like Lambda cos you dont need to think. Sure you can go "ooh, its close to 13, might be getting a little nasty..."But I see it below 1 and I'm happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRO250 1,506 Posted October 6, 2013 i run a innovative one to est tool ive got in the last year but will pete ever give it back LOL 1 XES reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XES 859 Posted October 6, 2013 Whenever you want Dave! Just sing out bud. I'm gunna have to get my own anyways now. To used to it being there. It gives a great indication of whats happening with your tune.<br /> 1 n00bus m@x1mus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clevo120Y 815 Posted October 11, 2013 Sorry for the late reply fellas, thanks for the info I will get my customer to buy one of those, as for the gopro/data logger I would like to use both but as mentioned above that is not in our budget for a full data logging setup so the camera is the next best option as I do like to hear whats going on also just to hear when the driver gets on and off the throttle. I also want to record myself taking this thing for a spin if I get the chance and show you blokes how not to race a speedway car LOL 1 Thom reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy2287 1,886 Posted October 12, 2013 Just an aside, you could put 1 megasquirt and all the necessary sensors on the car for the price of one of them black edition go-pros =P Ie, not that expensive .jpg There are alot of cheaper knock off cameras out there that will work pretty good too for the $50-100 rage. 1 n00bus m@x1mus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted October 13, 2013 Be careful with your test drive Clevo - you will want to own and race one. They are very addictive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clevo120Y 815 Posted October 13, 2013 HAHAHA a lack of cash will put an end to that very quickly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyler06 266 Posted October 14, 2013 I use innovate and yep it does have data logging. 1 Clevo120Y reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted October 15, 2013 Do you log anything else but?? how do u know what your looking at, or do you only look at the ends of the spectrum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clevo120Y 815 Posted October 17, 2013 Thanks guys, innovate ordered and on it's way. $205 including postage. 2 Crazy2287 and n00bus m@x1mus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted October 17, 2013 Goodo, now you will wonder how you ever tuned without one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted October 17, 2013 your dead right. Both my burnout and race car have AEM's in them and I would not be without them. an absolute god send. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronny 204 Posted October 18, 2013 Ive got this kit and very happy with it http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodview.asp?idproduct=150 I liked this one cos the display is very small I plug in a lap top at the drags and log my run Too hard to watch the guage at WOT lol 2 Clevo120Y and Thom reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nos2 751 Posted December 9, 2013 Ive got this kit and very happy with it http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store/scripts/prodview.asp?idproduct=150 I liked this one cos the display is very small I plug in a lap top at the drags and log my run Too hard to watch the guage at WOT lol Is that compatible with e85? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronny 204 Posted December 11, 2013 Is that compatible with e85? Yep Only leaded fuels stuff the sensor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites