wagoon 2,429 Posted November 25, 2015 Certainly is worth the effort in terms of gains. Panko you could show him a couple of youtube vids that show how much of a difference it makes. I watched one with the camera stuck to the outside of the car looking at the front tyre as it goes through turns. You can see the positive camber, kind of scary really. Tell him its for both longevity and safety of the car as both are true. Will also help with wear on the tyres too as your not rolling on the outside so much. You could get the drop done in a day with a bit of help, a weekend would be all you would need though. Its the exact same process as removing the front spring execpt you drilling 2 holes on each side of the car. 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nath 1,975 Posted November 25, 2015 If it's gonna go through every guy in OzFalcon can we leave unfamilia till last? 2 wagoon and Mr Polson reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_fahrquhar 2,580 Posted November 26, 2015 so the big question is.... upper balljoint angle for the shelby drop. who's got a wedge kit? I made the template (still have it) drilled one side and found that on the bump stop the joint was just starting to bind. So shelved that for a little bit while i sorted out wedges but been busy installing an nl cluster instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nath 1,975 Posted November 26, 2015 So shelved that Giggity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted November 26, 2015 Regarding shelby drop I have been told that the bolt joints bind and I have been told that they are fine. I have seen the ball joint thread on here regarding the new vs original type. Only thing I can say is I will be finding out soon what happens and if it does bind then I will try a fix for it. Only thing no one really mentions when they do have trouble is how low there springs are so thats why I am still going to try it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_fahrquhar 2,580 Posted November 27, 2015 hence my question regarding the wedge.... Good excuse to buy a mill... 1 Thom reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nath 1,975 Posted November 27, 2015 hence my question regarding the wedge.... Good excuse to buy a mill... Yeah I can see why you'd need one 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted November 27, 2015 Lol... If by "mill" you mean "$29 Ozito angle grinder" 1 Nath reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted November 28, 2015 been a bit busy but got the holes drilled yesterday for the shelby mod so I have finished with the template. So if anyone is interested in using the above template let me know. I haven't refitted the UCA yet as I'm going to replace the UCA bushes while they are out, which requires money I don't got. Edit: Just noticed that it looks like the bottom small hole on the left looks out of line, it's not it's just the angle of the pic taken. I used digital verniers to check the distances between hole centres before drilling any of them 2 Nath and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted November 29, 2015 Someone start a "Shelby drop thread" please..........? 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted November 30, 2015 Here ya go http://www.ozfalcon.com.au/index.php?/topic/325-diy-uca-shelby-drop-journal-xd-xe-xf/#entry3971 1 bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted November 30, 2015 Im hoping that I dont have to go to the same lengths as Crazy did, but going off everything that I have done in my build it will probably end up in some full custom bullshit. Will have to wait and see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menice 331 Posted November 30, 2015 Im hoping that I dont have to go to the same lengths as Crazy did, but going off everything that I have done in my build it will probably end up in some full custom bullshit. Will have to wait and see Just don't cut the car up lol that's what my shell is for :-) Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk 1 wagoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted November 30, 2015 Just don't cut the car up lol that's what my shell is for :-) Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk I can promise you that I wont be cutting up my car, thats the only reason Im not using the coilover setup for the front that Ando put up. For the amount of bullshit Ive gone through so I dont cut a hole in the bonnet I see that there is always a way not to hack shit up, its just not the easiest way. Far from it 2 Nath and Menice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted November 30, 2015 You can just weld some exhaust tubing to the std. waffle plate to locate the spring. No holes needed. Come on - you know you want to 1 wagoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted November 30, 2015 You can just weld some exhaust tubing to the std. waffle plate to locate the spring. No holes needed. Come on - you know you want to Yes I want to, but no I won't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nath 1,975 Posted December 17, 2015 Quote taken from a recent ad for these coilovers... "Spring rate is progressive and ramps up in stages from 550/700LB at ride height to 900LB under full bump meaning greater levels of control." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Polson 10,214 Posted December 17, 2015 Quote taken from a recent ad for these coilovers... "Spring rate is progressive and ramps up in stages from 550/700LB at ride height to 900LB under full bump meaning greater levels of control." Did you notice that ad was posted yesterday and it stated the coil overs have had a recent design improvement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nath 1,975 Posted December 17, 2015 Nope. Wonder how recent, I'd be kind of spewing if I missed out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 17, 2015 I did just read that on face book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nath 1,975 Posted December 17, 2015 Looks pretty identical to me. 1 NZXD reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted December 17, 2015 Quote taken from a recent ad for these coilovers... "Spring rate is progressive and ramps up in stages from 550/700LB at ride height to 900LB under full bump meaning greater levels of control." I rang and spoke to one of the techs at King springs around a couple of weeks ago . During the conversation the guy mentioned that normal king springs (Low's, SL, SSL etc) are 510lb but he did not mention if that's for all the different heights or a specific height. So that makes the above setting of the XYZ coilovers interesting, but I would want to know what ride height was required to make them 700lb. That spring wrap tells me that the springs touch at that point so it's relying on the lower section of the spring to achieve the higher spring rate. The only problem with them taking so long to get to the higher spring rate is you are much closer to the bump stops if not touching them already which makes the higher rating redundant as the car can't pass the bump stop height. If you were game you could remove the bump stops but your shocks might bottom out before the spring firms up enough to stop it laying over. There is also ball joint bind and possibly other things binding when at no bump stop height. Again not putting shit on these coilovers just pointing out stuff. Still think they are a good option for someone wanting to get the ride height just right or if you need to replace springs, shocks and spring saddles. 1 Nath reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Polson 10,214 Posted December 17, 2015 Nope. Wonder how recent, I'd be kind of spewing if I missed out. Contact them and ask? The way the ad was written made it sound pretty recent. But saying that maybe that's why you had to wait so long for yours, due to the redesign? The new ad states they are in stock ready to ship, so maybe they sold all there old stuff which lead to a period of no stock (your waiting time). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
