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You don't really need the turkey pan tray. Those blue gaskets in that set work awesome  

Does any one knows if the sump plug thread on the Cleveland is larger on the later models
Most the info on the net say it is 1/2inch. The ones on eBay that state size say 1/2 inch. The one in mine is larger? Trying the get a new one. I always thought they were all the same Cleveland crossflow. The socket I use is 3/4. I have another Cleveland her that takes a 7/8 socket?
Thanks Dale


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Yes dale it's only the bolt head that is different I have come across that same thing,thread should be the same

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this one must have been tapped out already then as it is bigger
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Yeah, different manufacturers had different sizes of hex head. They used to sell a plug stamped OS, for "oversize", but haven't seen one for ages. Yours may have well been drilled and tapped the next size up, 'cos the thread was stripped, look up the sizes for Commodore/Kingswood or maybe British cars. Easy fix would be either a new sump or a helicoil. 
 
Cheaper to scrounge the wreckers for the next sized sump plug, I reckon. 

am thinking it may have been made bigger. I put the motor inthe car in a hurry. Did the drive around at the time with not much luck to source  new one.  here i go again
thanks guys
 

The 460 gasket set is huge I guess that's why it's soooo expensive,it don't come with the factory steel manifold tray that's why I bought one cheap as I'm using the cast iron manifold,gerg what the hell are all these other gaskets and round cork thing.could be later efi stuff ? As 1 gasket set does both engines

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yes i would say you are correct bear,i also havent had the dredded phone call from him saying arrr we need to fully reco these heads cause it aint gunna happen,if im going to go animal on a set of big block heads they will be pro comp or other alloy castings.

you mean the valve stem or seats ? as it was they are untouched from new he reckons and still ok to use there is very little if any wobble from side to side,but the seats just needed a spruce up,being a 1973 or 74 engine its possible this is a unleaded engine ,i think they started using or introduced it in 1971 ?.

there is also good news on the heads,olm8 is machining them and cutting the seats to seal better,he did just 1 seat while i was there and the difference was incredible from what they were.

also i read last night that my sump needs a police/cobra jet oil pump and pick up,as a std one has the wrong angle to fit,there is about 10 million different pumps and pick ups for the big block ,sumps as well.

yes i can picture it,nice black painted block n heads with arrrrr first snag gerg clevo covers dont fit 460,anyway back to the pipe dream,yeah blue 4.9 sticker on r.cover and air cleaner,std 460 steel covers would work,get em blasted and i still have xd xe silver met paint from last time,hmmm,just the last 2 days i have been chatting on the phone with a guy from nth america buying stuff off him in 1 bundle cause its hard and expensive buying 460 stuff here now,all he ever talks about is how much he wants a set of closed chamber 2vs lol.ok i swap ya a set of 2v closed for a set of 429 cobra jet irons.

some interesting engines being rebuilt here on oz falcon,bear try and find the 300.

So, after a coupla days on the couch with the Rona, I got back out into the shed, and finished stripping the big block 170.  Crank out, cam out, wash and degrease, kissed the lifter bores with a brake hone, and ran the 3 prong hone down the cylinders. 
Angry face...!!  Punched out the little welshy, found the last one behind it.!  
 
 
 
Cyl 3 looks like it had a water leak, or was just sitting for years with the valves open.
 
 
Look at the dodgy castings from the Sixties.. Didn't even make it a SQUARE..!    Held the gasket up and there ain't much you can do about this. The casting on the back is cut back at 45*, and you easily grind through, and 'cos this is a log manifold, the whole head then goes in the bin.
 
 
All the bits, from the guts of the engine, set out with typical ADHD fashion...
 
 
Cylinder 5 had a piece of piston ring, or a chipped valve, piece of gravel bouncing around inside. There's some damage to the piston, and the head. Nothing too serious.
 
 
.......now to make a valve spring compressor.
 

speed pro do a nice one for $391 on special atm but rings are not cheap,hmmmm.

Block is back too,still ain't finished need to buy pistons just deciding on factory dish at 21 cc gives 8.5.1 and flat tops for 50 bucks more at 4cc and 9.5.1 still undecided.

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It's 50 bucks bro, go for the higher comp ones

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Actually 472 I forgot to mention after he checked the block it was already 030 over,so it's Gunnar get a 060 bore which these blocks handle fine ,some even bore them to 4.500,but 060 over is 4.420.

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460 in the billy cart?

yes i would say you are correct bear,i also havent had the dredded phone call from him saying arrr we need to fully reco these heads cause it aint gunna happen,if im going to go animal on a set of big block heads they will be pro comp or other alloy castings.

you mean the valve stem or seats ? as it was they are untouched from new he reckons and still ok to use there is very little if any wobble from side to side,but the seats just needed a spruce up,being a 1973 or 74 engine its possible this is a unleaded engine ,i think they started using or introduced it in 1971 ?.

there is also good news on the heads,olm8 is machining them and cutting the seats to seal better,he did just 1 seat while i was there and the difference was incredible from what they were.

Looks like cast iron from this shot. 

Sorry I meant seats. I was lucky when I got mine done up, someone had done inserts before. Guides needed doing though.

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Did they already have inserts or just factory hardened iron?

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