anthony2277 4 Posted December 14, 2014 Will an alternator from any other E Series falcon fit an EF, thanks <br /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Campo 869 Posted December 14, 2014 Yeah mate theyre the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve mcqueen 1,796 Posted December 14, 2014 Yeap, an EL should fit. EA/EB and ED all run V belts, the EF runs a serpentine belt set up. Is it as simple as a pulley swap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,881 Posted December 14, 2014 EA is unique - being an 85A Bosch unit with a 3 rib pulley EB/ED/XG run a 85A Mitsubishi alternator with a 3 rib pulley EF 6cyl run a 110A Mitsubishi Alternator with a Serpentine belt pulley (they have 4 diode packs making up the rectifier) EL/XH run a 100A Mitsubishi Alternator with the Serpentine Pulley and a 3 diode pack rectifier. EF/EL/XH V8's run a 100A Mitsubishi Alternator again, with Serpentine Pulley and 3 diode rectifier pack. They are essentially the same as the EL/XH 6cyl alternators, except the alloy casing has the mounting tabs in a different location. EA-ED/XG alternators have the voltage reg/brush assembly plug, in the back of the alternator casing. EF-EL/XH alternators have the plug in the SIDE of the casing. You can also retrofit the two wire AU/BA alternators to the E-series as ford have a conversion plug available, to suit the earlier looms. The BF-FG/Territory alternators with the 3 wire regulator, will not work. (but they will physically bolt up) All the Ford badged Mitsubishi alternators, have a date code on the ID sticker, so you can identify the age of the unit. In the linked example, the date code says 5209 - meaning 52nd week of 2009. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-Ford-Falcon-AU-BA-6-Cyl-110Amp-Alternator-NEW-/260753586980?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb61ffb24 3 Outback Jack, Crazy2287 and XTREME KARTS XF reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthony2277 4 Posted December 15, 2014 EA is unique - being an 85A Bosch unit with a 3 rib pulley EB/ED/XG run a 85A Mitsubishi alternator with a 3 rib pulley EF 6cyl run a 110A Mitsubishi Alternator with a Serpentine belt pulley (they have 4 diode packs making up the rectifier) EL/XH run a 100A Mitsubishi Alternator with the Serpentine Pulley and a 3 diode pack rectifier. EF/EL/XH V8's run a 100A Mitsubishi Alternator again, with Serpentine Pulley and 3 diode rectifier pack. They are essentially the same as the EL/XH 6cyl alternators, except the alloy casing has the mounting tabs in a different location. EA-ED/XG alternators have the voltage reg/brush assembly plug, in the back of the alternator casing. EF-EL/XH alternators have the plug in the SIDE of the casing. You can also retrofit the two wire AU/BA alternators to the E-series as ford have a conversion plug available, to suit the earlier looms. The BF-FG/Territory alternators with the 3 wire regulator, will not work. (but they will physically bolt up) All the Ford badged Mitsubishi alternators, have a date code on the ID sticker, so you can identify the age of the unit. In the linked example, the date code says 5209 - meaning 52nd week of 2009. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-Ford-Falcon-AU-BA-6-Cyl-110Amp-Alternator-NEW-/260753586980?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb61ffb24 ok, that just confused me 1 SPArKy_Dave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthony2277 4 Posted December 15, 2014 Yeap, an EL should fit. EA/EB and ED all run V belts, the EF runs a serpentine belt set up. Is it as simple as a pulley swap? pulley swap on the alternator you mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthony2277 4 Posted December 15, 2014 Be cheaper if it is just the pulley<br /><br /> RACQ said the alternator is done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve mcqueen 1,796 Posted December 15, 2014 pulley swap on the alternator you mean? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthony2277 4 Posted December 16, 2014 How do I tell if its just a pulley <br /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthony2277 4 Posted December 16, 2014 I would rather pay like 40 bucks for a pulley and pulley puller than 90 for one from the wreckers <br /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve mcqueen 1,796 Posted December 16, 2014 Well, im going off what sparky has posted after my original comment and its gonna be more than a pulley swap. "EA/EB/ED/XG run a 85Amp alternator" the EF has a 110 amp alternator so its has much bigger output. the EL has a 100 amp alternator so a tad smaller output than EF but bigger than EA/EB/ED, so that would cause other issues (battery charging, night time lighting etc) The wiring plug in the EF car wont plug into the alternator from EA/EB/ED, its also different. That $90 unit from the wreckers is sounding good about now, surley it comes with a warranty? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthony2277 4 Posted December 16, 2014 So an EF alternator is prob the best way to go, cheers guys <br /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthony2277 4 Posted December 16, 2014 I would say a warranty comes with it <br /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,881 Posted December 16, 2014 So an EF alternator is prob the best way to go, cheers guys <br /> An EF alternator is the highest capacity of the three options. A sec/hand unit is always a gamble.... $90, and you might only get 3-6mths from it. Unless a sec/hand unit is known to have been rebuilt recently, the brushes in most of them will be at least 1/2 to 3/4 worn by now. IN my experience, the brushes have a lifespan of about 300-350,000km. Voltage regs and rectifier packs can fail earlier, if the charging system has been run hard many times - flat/old batteries, frequent night driving, big stereo, etc. Why not do what I would do..... and rebuild your original alternator? As long as you have access to basic tools and a soldering iron, it's an easy job to accomplish. Determine if it's brushes/reg assembly or rectifier pack. Buy replacement parts from ebay. Check bearing condition while alternator is apart. Solder in replacement parts, replace or re-grease bearings, reassemble, and your done!....... An alternator ready to last another 2-300,000km. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-EF-EL-AU2-Mazda-Alternator-Mitsubishi-rectifier-/360260104095?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e12cef9f http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EF-EL-Ford-Falcon-Alternator-Rectifire-3Year-warranty-/271452653899?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f33d6c94b http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EF-EL-Ford-Falcon-Alternator-Regulator-3Year-warranty-Genuine-mitsubishi-/271452632499?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f33d675b3 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mitsubishi-Slip-Ring-for-FORD-Falcon-EF-EL-AU-BA-BF-FG-Alternator-/280624322094?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415683562e http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PFI-ALTERNATOR-MITSUBISHI-BEARINGS-FORD-EB-EF-EL-8x23x14mm-B-NEW-4-/400736422636?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d4dc08aec http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PFI-ALTERNATOR-BEARINGS-USA-17x62x18mm-MITSUBISHI-FORD-EF-EL-71a-/150972080254?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2326a3207e Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valvebouncer 2,389 Posted December 16, 2014 Good advice there Sparky. Could I just add that most falcon alternator fail prematurely because of the power steering pump/reservoir above it leaking fluid all over it. If your second hand one is oily or has been chemically cleaned/ pressure washed it'll most likely need a rebuild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
