Vannin 2 Posted August 24, 2013 Just sorted the EB Fairmont cluster into my Clevo powered XF..... You'll need: XG Cluster Surround. (with screws & screw covers) XG or EB Cluster. XG Cluster Support frame. (with screws) XG Plug & Loom (cut as far back to main harness as possible) XF Cluster to destroy if you want plug & play, if not you can hard wire. Tried to post here but can't post excel for some reason!!! If you want a copy, send me a message & include your email address & I will email it to you! Cheers John. 2 Rockabilly and XTREME KARTS XF reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted August 24, 2013 the fuel guage doesnt work with the XF tank sender. (its ok on most LPG tanks though) but you can mount the XF GL guage inside the EB cluster and do some wiring mods, or, i spoke to an instrument tech that can make it work other ways.. (not sure whats involved, but its possible) i used the E series oil sender also, aparently they vary a little. i will be making another soon, so wouldnt mind seeing if yours is easier to read than Mine John, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vannin 2 Posted August 24, 2013 Clevo is straight lpg so Just threw the interface away! Oil pressure senders are different in the readings, use one from EA onwards will be fine.... (mine came from EL & same thread as the clevo) Utes & vans can use the fuel senders from the XA to XC Falcons.... these will work with Late dash (XD-XF use reostat sender, pain in arse) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted August 24, 2013 thats handy to know regarding the early senders, my transit sender may work straight up also then? if i ever get to this mod for it also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XTREME KARTS XF 1,212 Posted August 25, 2013 PM sent john Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XTREME KARTS XF 1,212 Posted August 26, 2013 i got your email john, i might consider doing the EB/XG dash cluster conversion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vannin 2 Posted August 26, 2013 Easy enough to do!!! I do like the look of it better now! Just have to do my magic on the dash lights now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted August 26, 2013 i found my notes, if you cant work it out.. best not start.. NO WARRANTY, NO PROMISES, ENTER AT OWN RISK i have a cluster here someone cooked trying to do this conversion lol(not me) fried tacho, fried circuit board, fried fuel guage, speedo not working in trip meter part with new gear fitted.. probably did that also lol when looking at my chart the numbers i wrote in the XF plugs go to the numbered E series wires e series plugs are numbered. the XF ones are Not wiring diagram showing plugs(if keeping the XF plugs from a sacrificed GL cluster for eg) Loom interface i made(can be removed to refit an XF cluster etc) fuel guage mod i invented, (this is to fit the XF GL fuel guage,)(there is other ways of making the E series one work..i dont know how) other part of the fuel guage mod, bypassing the internal circuit board 2 Outback Jack and XTREME KARTS XF reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted August 26, 2013 also i moved a non used wire to the tacho pin, because i originally bought a loom section from a base model.. 1 XTREME KARTS XF reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockabilly 3 Posted June 27, 2014 I've just tried to put the ea cluster into my XF PANELVAN, I tried to use a xg fuel sender but still no luck, and my oil gauge just maxes out, I've followed a few different threads but i still can't get it right, I need help! Maybe the cluster is stuffed it looks like they've pulled it down at some stage! On the positive cranked the motor over for the first time today! Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,694 Posted June 27, 2014 You need an ea oil pressure sender to suit a gauge not a switch 1 XTREME KARTS XF reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockabilly 3 Posted June 27, 2014 I used a xh oil pressure sensor for gauge, still maxing out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,694 Posted June 27, 2014 Xh work in the wrong range you need one that matches the dash 1 Lott reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ando81 2,950 Posted June 28, 2014 I used a xh oil pressure sensor for gauge, still maxing out I had the same problem putting a xf ghia dash in my xf falcon. Then a champion on here told me that oil pressure gauge won't read correctly if it still has a low oil warning globe in the dash. I simply removed the globe from the cluster and it's worked fine ever since!! Not sure if the same goes for an ea dash, might be worth a look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockabilly 3 Posted July 30, 2014 Thanks DEANKDX and THOM my dash works perfect now, no need to remove oil dash light either! All really good info! 1 deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockabilly 3 Posted July 20, 2016 The fuel guage is maxing out all the time, I must have something wrong, I've reversed the polarity of guage and cut exactly as in pictures, and bridged the circuit board, it's a real headache! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted August 28, 2017 attempting to repair this thread.. picture dump, will try edit it when i can find the info for each pic some copy/pasted info here the plugs dont plug up is the main issue.. i made a hybrid adaptor for mine.. although you could hard wire it in(needing a loom section from an EA or EB s pack... XG wires are shorter and dont reach so make them longer if you get XG loom section.) the fuel guage would probably work if you have an XF wagon or ute/van and fitted an EA EB wagon fuel tank(if the sender isnt a straight swap?) or an XG/XH fuel tank to the XF ute/van in same way. the oil pressure sender is different resistance i think, so use an EA/EB spack one etc My local instrument joint told me they could work out a way to get the fuel guage working, would be by fitting a universal sender to the XF tank.. assume cost would be $100? i get around the fuel guage issue by fitting an XF GL fuel guage to the EA s pack cluster.. (polarity is backwards so you need to cut and bridge the circuit board tracks) then cut and bridge the tracks again to bypass some circuit board also inside.. the guage faces swap over directly, same for the needles. not sure what this bypass was for regarding the fuel guage, but it wasn't part of the XF one, so i bypassed it. need to clearance the backing area for the bypass wire(WEAR SAFETY GLASSES.. this was another time i got shit in my eye) My drawing for pinouts.. if you can work it out.. good.. plug orientation pi all in all.. good fun if you have time and patience. of which i am out of both. good luck. 3 408WPN, Outback Jack and SLO247 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted August 28, 2017 another thing i just wondered. would an EB etc sender fit in an EFI XE XF fuel tank. if so, that might be another way to get around the fuel gauge issue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baza 0 Posted October 15, 2019 Hi Baza here, we also have a xf fairmont and are changing the clusters to a xh ute dash, just wondering if you could email me the wiring diagram as above. Cheers Barry email address pod.motors@farmside.co.nz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, baza said: Hi Baza here, we also have a xf fairmont and are changing the clusters to a xh ute dash, just wondering if you could email me the wiring diagram as above. Cheers Barry email address pod.motors@farmside.co.nz as far as i'm aware the XH(same as EF EL style) uses the ECU for info, it's not going to work with basic wiring. i don't have any of the info at hand anymore, if it's not here in this thread, go searching on fordmods.com for same info if that forum even still exists? @Thom might have half a clue on how it might be possible, but i haven't seen it before working(if i was to do it, i'd consider fitting 100% XH wiring and everything, but i wouldn't even consider it due to being a massive task that has too many electrical issue potential) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
408WPN 36 Posted October 31 Vannin,receiving over. Hey John, super old post but could you email me particulars on XG Dash cluster conversion to XF, especially on regards to fuel sender & perhaps oil sender. My car is 1985 GL, engine swap to 351c. Cheers Andy thjsandy@yahoo.com.tw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, 408WPN said: Vannin,receiving over. Hey John, super old post but could you email me particulars on XG Dash cluster conversion to XF, especially on regards to fuel sender & perhaps oil sender. My car is 1985 GL, engine swap to 351c. Cheers Andy thjsandy@yahoo.com.tw @Vannin hasn't logged in on here since 2013, so unlikely to respond. what I've mentioned above covers your questions generally. oil pressure sender to suit your cluster (EA to ED, XG XH sports clusters) fuel gauge @Crazy2287 may have some input if still playing with these cars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
408WPN 36 Posted October 31 12 minutes ago, deankxf said: @Vannin hasn't logged in on here since 2013, so unlikely to respond. what I've mentioned above covers your questions generally. oil pressure sender to suit your cluster (EA to ED, XG XH sports clusters) fuel gauge @Crazy2287 may have some input if still playing with these cars. Thanks Dean, so am I correct in thinking the oil sender is the thing screwed into the top of the engine block behind the intake manifold on 351c 1 deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,743 Posted October 31 9 hours ago, 408WPN said: Thanks Dean, so am I correct in thinking the oil sender is the thing screwed into the top of the engine block behind the intake manifold on 351c Yep that's the one. And on the passenger side of an ohc six engine block near the dizzy if you are finding one from a wreckers or donor car. Be aware the base models will be a switch on/off for the light. The s pack etc are a bigger unit that varies the guage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
408WPN 36 Posted October 31 5 hours ago, deankxf said: Yep that's the one. And on the passenger side of an ohc six engine block near the dizzy if you are finding one from a wreckers or donor car. Be aware the base models will be a switch on/off for the light. The s pack etc are a bigger unit that varies the guage Awesome M8,thanks alot 1 deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
