RAWDEAL 222 Posted October 5, 2015 I have bought this cam I am not sure if i should get the head ported or not , i want to get its full potential I have plans for it to go onto a Reco Xb xr6 head, and then into my Manual ed xr6, already has headers, exhaust, 3.45 gears Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 5, 2015 Want it to go fast or just be another OHC engine with a stick in it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted October 5, 2015 Want it to go fast or just be another OHC engine with a stick in it ? +1 Stock will be fine, but a headjob makes you perform better 1 Ando81 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted October 5, 2015 Want it to go fast or just be another OHC engine with a stick in it ? i don't want another '130rwkw after a cam and tune' lol which i see a bit of really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted October 5, 2015 That cam's pretty mild really, not that OHC motors need much cam to wake them up. Do you have someone who knows their way around those heads? I don't think they're a straightforward port job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 5, 2015 Cam @ Engine Engineering is the man for the job. 3 gerg, wagoon and Menice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted October 5, 2015 ^^^^^^^^^what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^ 1 wagoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted October 5, 2015 For my engine Cam (guy Sly mentioned) concentrated on low lift figures and kept the speed right up, this kept the cost right down. If you look at my flow figures for my head (first page of my roller cam thread) the low lift figures are quite high but the flow slows after 550 of lift. Perfect for a street engine. 1 ando76 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 6, 2015 Well TBH not many would prob be overly impressed with my flow figures but as the head was designed for a specific purpose it flows in a certain manner to suit my needs. While the car is far from tuned to it's potential it is running all but 116mph in 400mtrs from a cyl head that is far from over the top but made to work what it is in. Point being it can be ported and seats cut and shit to suit and it will make a BIG difference. We are prob looking @ 40hp in my car,so tell me thats not worth going for? 2 Thom and wagoon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRO250 1,506 Posted October 6, 2015 not in a 4litre rob there a to new to have poweralthow dan went 12.6 a few weeks ago stock engine and i mean stock wrecker engine but a lot of bottle cough boost it,,,, cough boost it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted October 6, 2015 Cam @ Engine Engineering is the man for the job. From googling it, is it a place in QLD? id rather somewhere in vic if i CAN.. that way i could visit and have a chat ect ect.. usually makes things easier And im hopeless at organizing postage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 6, 2015 If you want shit done right it has to go to the right people. I didn't tell you a place in Vic for a reason and don't worry I made alot of inquiries. 1 ando76 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menice 331 Posted October 6, 2015 Talk to kendall mate, he'll give you decent advice for what ever end goals you have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRO250 1,506 Posted October 6, 2015 Fastest NA 4litre in aus lives and built in Victoria 12s and a big fat falcon and manual to boot I gave up trying to make a 4litre fast unless there boosted you will not even get one into the 13s unless its on NOS boosted or some how force fed, good engine NA cause you cant put much cam in them, and boosted they blow up unless there built engines either way you have to spend money, its just sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 6, 2015 So Jasons 11 sec nat asp 4ltr Corty is a US based car or ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menice 331 Posted October 6, 2015 Well it is a barra now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted October 6, 2015 Yeah they are a funny engine in that you can't bang a great deal of lift into them due to the rocker problem. They break. Having said that I have not yet seen a engine that does not respond to a good seat cut, bowl job and cross sectional area optimisation. Heads make the power Cam tells it where to make power Bottom end supports the rest Greatest airspeed gains are made at the seat These are all well known, time honoured facts - no secrets there. From your first post, it sounds like you are planning on getting the head serviced anyway. Why would you not get a decent seat cut instead, considering the cost difference is minimal. The choice is yours but you have asked for advice. The choice is yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 6, 2015 Well it is a barra now Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk Still a 4ltr nat asp engine and runs mid 11s 1 Menice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menice 331 Posted October 6, 2015 Well it is a barra now Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk Still a 4ltr nat asp engine and runs mid 11s Yeah haha was chatting to him at one of the street series rounds about month ago at willowbank, definitely a neat little setup. Sent from my D5833 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted October 6, 2015 Very fast for what it is tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted October 6, 2015 From googling it, is it a place in QLD? id rather somewhere in vic if i CAN.. that way i could visit and have a chat ect ect.. usually makes things easier And im hopeless at organizing postage If organised through people here Cam@ Engine Engineering is more than happy to give you a call and chat about what you are after. It's not a 3 hour chat about your life and what your retirement plans are, Cam knows his shit and knows what to ask you so he can give you what you need. If you worried about post I live within a hour of Engine Engineering and am more than happy to drop off stuff for ozfalcon members, I have stated this before and the offer still applies that's how much faith I have in Cam's abilities. I get nothing out of it other than I'm helping a fellow forum member, I know that your not getting ripped off and your getting the best job possible. I also have an E-go courier depot near my work which makes shipping very cheap, for example I sent a crossflow cylinder head from the depot near my work over to Perth for $20. That was depot to depot which is by far the cheapest option but there are other options available. Happy to help where I can and I know you will not be disappointed with Cam's work. Plus Engine Engineering has very competitive prices when it comes to all it's machine work so with the post through E-go you will probably come out even or in front if you compared the overall price(porting and reco head) with someone local to you that is of a comparable quality (although you will struggle to find someone as good as Cam for any money let alone a decent price) 3 slydog, gerg and ando76 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted October 7, 2015 Yeah they are a funny engine in that you can't bang a great deal of lift into them due to the rocker problem. They break. Having said that I have not yet seen a engine that does not respond to a good seat cut, bowl job and cross sectional area optimisation. Heads make the power Cam tells it where to make power Bottom end supports the rest Greatest airspeed gains are made at the seat These are all well known, time honoured facts - no secrets there. From your first post, it sounds like you are planning on getting the head serviced anyway. Why would you not get a decent seat cut instead, considering the cost difference is minimal. The choice is yours but you have asked for advice. The choice is yours. im pretty sure a reco with a good seat profile and a bit of a port on the short turn radius really wakes these heads up? it would be good if i could speak to someone whos done it all before and stuff, someone who can port it ect i can copy one of their other customers setups or something haha slydog im not fussed if i had to get a head from qld but it would make things more annoying lol 200rwkw would be grouse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted October 7, 2015 Talk to kendall mate, he'll give you decent advice for what ever end goals you have Ive added him on facebook (todays version of the business section in the local paper lol) Asked him a few questions. Ill be 100% getting a tune with the EL ecu for starters. just to get a bit more econ while i am dailying it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRO250 1,506 Posted October 8, 2015 200killer wasps is a fair ask my engine was a fuill built engine and tuned by the best boys in VIC and it did under 170killer wasps hell it only did 238 boostedBut the end of the day budget will tell you how much power you will make id bang the cam in and drive it. funny this thread made me pull my blackXR out and wash it good looking car ford got these cars right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRO250 1,506 Posted October 8, 2015 did you get a PM off me RAW? I have a built 4litre in the shed its a mock street fighter engine all that's been talked about in here it has PM if you might want it I don't think ill use it again NA has nothing on boosted so I no longer need it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
