CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 17, 2021 I actually look like the guy in the "after" photo, but 50 kgs heavier. Frikkin nightshift............Im pretty happy with these heads now just waiting my new valve springsSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 1 1 deankxf and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 19, 2021 Im pretty happy with these heads now just waiting my new valve springsSent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkWow these beefy 400 mounts are more than i expected they are mega h.d and thick i can also see a offset where it bolts up thats probly why i had so much trouble with my own trying to work it out on the last 400 into xf but well worth $280 you even get bolts for all i wasnt expecting that anyway lets bolt one up and chex it outSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 1 2 gerg, deankxf and bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 19, 2021 Wow these beefy 400 mounts are more than i expected they are mega h.d and thick i can also see a offset where it bolts up thats probly why i had so much trouble with my own trying to work it out on the last 400 into xf but well worth $280 you even get bolts for all i wasnt expecting that anyway lets bolt one up and chex it outSent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkOnly concern is can you loosen that big centre bolt to flip the thing into its slot on the aussie v8 frame mounts i guess so ? Also this has been bugging me for years will a 351c girdle fit a 400 and by these pics i just took it seems so, ford just took so much off each side to fit 3 inch mainsSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 21, 2021 Only concern is can you loosen that big centre bolt to flip the thing into its slot on the aussie v8 frame mounts i guess so ? Also this has been bugging me for years will a 351c girdle fit a 400 and by these pics i just took it seems so, ford just took so much off each side to fit 3 inch mainsSent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkWhile waiting for parts to arrive i started with a soft brass wheel and cleaned up the manifold and this morning bought a chemtech aluminium cleaner whixh probly would have done the same job but lets give it a go it says dilute it or use as is for heavy stainsSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, CHESTNUTXE said: While waiting for parts to arrive i started with a soft brass wheel and cleaned up the manifold and this morning bought a chemtech aluminium cleaner whixh probly would have done the same job but lets give it a go it says dilute it or use as is for heavy stains Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk not going for the "stock 302" build this time? 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 22, 2021 not going for the "stock 302" build this time?Well it worked ok now tape it up and i hope it comes out like the other oneSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 2 1 gerg, Outback Jack and deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 22, 2021 Well it worked ok now tape it up and i hope it comes out like the other oneSent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkPainted and clear coat its come up niceSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 2 deankxf and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 23, 2021 Painted and clear coat its come up niceSent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkHey do i need to use the paste on the valves or not as they are going back in the same slot ? Im just waiting on my valve springs to arrive then can assemble themSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 23, 2021 Hey do i need to use the paste on the valves or not as they are going back in the same slot ? Im just waiting on my valve springs to arrive then can assemble themSent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkI lapped em in anyway and did just one head today springs are rated to 540 lift and a nice upgrade for a mild cam without breaking the budgetSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 3 deankxf, gerg and bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted July 23, 2021 Do it anyways........ won't do any harm. Give you a nice new seal surface, also tells you if your valves are bent. 3 Outback Jack, CHESTNUTXE and deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 23, 2021 Do it anyways........ won't do any harm. Give you a nice new seal surface, also tells you if your valves are bent.Hey does anyone know if i need different length pushrods if going the roller cam route compard to std length hyd ? Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted July 23, 2021 Hey does anyone know if i need different length pushrods if going the roller cam route compard to std length hyd ? Sent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkIf the roller cam is a proper retrofit, the base circle of the cam is made smaller to accommodate the longer lifters, so should be right for std pushrods. This also prevents the lifter from otherwise poking out too far at max lift, causing oil pressure to dump out the top of the lifter bore via the lifter oil feed hole.Check first though, although I researched this a while back, I have never actually fitted a retrofit roller to a clevo.Sent from my CPH1920 using Tapatalk 2 CHESTNUTXE and bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 23, 2021 If the roller cam is a proper retrofit, the base circle of the cam is made smaller to accommodate the longer lifters, so should be right for std pushrods. This also prevents the lifter from otherwise poking out too far at max lift, causing oil pressure to dump out the top of the lifter bore via the lifter oil feed hole.Check first though, although I researched this a while back, I have never actually fitted a retrofit roller to a clevo.Sent from my CPH1920 using TapatalkComp do a nice small basic 1500/4500 with tiny lift that suits my new stamped steel rockers , in the kit you get the spider and lifters that resemble the efi 5.0Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 2 gerg and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted July 23, 2021 Comp do a nice small basic 1500/4500 with tiny lift that suits my new stamped steel rockers , in the kit you get the spider and lifters that resemble the efi 5.0Sent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkThat's a good kit if you have the bare block in front of you. It requires drilling/tapping in the valley to screw the spider down, which of course creates shavings you need to clean up. I think the spider type lifter is a better long-term upgrade than the tie-bar type. Seen stories of catastrophic failures on the latter.Sent from my CPH1920 using Tapatalk 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 24, 2021 That's a good kit if you have the bare block in front of you. It requires drilling/tapping in the valley to screw the spider down, which of course creates shavings you need to clean up. I think the spider type lifter is a better long-term upgrade than the tie-bar type. Seen stories of catastrophic failures on the latter.Sent from my CPH1920 using TapatalkJust starting on this other head ,the springs have a damper in them , also this adds to the debate over black xe heads looks like niagra falls Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 1 1 Outback Jack and deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 24, 2021 Just starting on this other head ,the springs have a damper in them , also this adds to the debate over black xe heads looks like niagra falls Sent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkOk its done and just bolted a new roxker hey do you really need the oil deflector Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 3 Outback Jack, deankxf and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted July 24, 2021 Ok its done and just bolted a new roxker hey do you really need the oil deflector Sent from my SM-G610Y using TapatalkI would say "yes", you do need them. The oil doesn't just lubricate the pivot, it cools it as well. I've had my rocker covers off while running and noticed that on the oil deflectors that were broken, the oil shot out of the hole by a good foot or so, which means each one was shooting the oil up under the rocker cover and missing the rocker pivot completely.What did you mean by "adding to the argument" about black motor heads? Do you mean there definitely is a difference, or that you can't see much in it?Sent from my CPH1920 using Tapatalk 3 CHESTNUTXE, Outback Jack and bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 24, 2021 I would say "yes", you do need them. The oil doesn't just lubricate the pivot, it cools it as well. I've had my rocker covers off while running and noticed that on the oil deflectors that were broken, the oil shot out of the hole by a good foot or so, which means each one was shooting the oil up under the rocker cover and missing the rocker pivot completely.What did you mean by "adding to the argument" about black motor heads? Do you mean there definitely is a difference, or that you can't see much in it?Sent from my CPH1920 using TapatalkJust previously talked about that black heads are the last revision and were tidy up a bit to make a little more power ,also painted the edelbrock logo and heat thing with ford dark blueSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk 3 gerg, bear351c and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted July 24, 2021 5 hours ago, CHESTNUTXE said: @deankdx find me an XE for the 400M (i made this up, you asked me ages ago ) check your PM 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 24, 2021 check your PMI like it vut 1 provlem its colom 3 seat (would be interesting 400 on the tree)Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted July 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, CHESTNUTXE said: I like it vut 1 provlem its colom 3 seat (would be interesting 400 on the tree) Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk pfft, thats 10mins with a grinder fix you also wanted a "family" car.. 6 seats, how much more "family" do you want.. keep it column shift, 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 24, 2021 pfft, thats 10mins with a grinder fix you also wanted a "family" car.. 6 seats, how much more "family" do you want.. keep it column shift, Im trying to find out where it is in qldSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted July 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, CHESTNUTXE said: Im trying to find out where it is in qld Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk lol Qld is a big place if it's as listed, near Cairns https://goo.gl/maps/2vqtSq7ZuU8N9bQi8 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,311 Posted July 24, 2021 lol Qld is a big place if it's as listed, near Cairns https://goo.gl/maps/2vqtSq7ZuU8N9bQi8Yeah just worked it out vut ando76 lives thereSent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, CHESTNUTXE said: Yeah just worked it out vut ando76 lives there Sent from my SM-G610Y using Tapatalk you know what to do then... road trip 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites