Crustydog 46 Posted January 18, 2018 I know this has been covered before and it has helped me to work some of it out but im not sure about the year. The engine number starts off with - ALIJTP From what i can make out its an American block from a f100 4x2 Any help would be appreciated cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted January 18, 2018 Usually the month and year are marked with a casting number, elsewhere on the block. The lower set, "3A27" Or Aussie stuff has these....... http://www.fomoco.com.au/ID.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crustydog 46 Posted January 18, 2018 Mine has 7B7 cast on the block in that lower position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crustydog 46 Posted January 18, 2018 https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://fordclassics.com/date-codes&ved=2ahUKEwjJl6CY7uDYAhVFlpQKHSXtAOYQFjABegQIFBAB&usg=AOvVaw0Zao3fL4qJ3LGtZNGecyCa This site tells me its a febuary build on the 7th day of the month. Would i be right in saying it would most likely be from 1977? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted January 19, 2018 Yep. 1967 or 1977. I'm guessing your F100 was 1977.? The other number above will give you an idea of the year, etc.... Casting number (D2AE-CA ) was a Cobra Jet block 1973 Mustang, I think. 1 SPArKy_Dave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,881 Posted January 20, 2018 C is 60's D is a 70's casting E is 80's F is 90's, so that tells you if the year is 60's, 70's etc 1 Crustydog reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crustydog 46 Posted January 20, 2018 Thanks guys. Ill have another look at it when I get home tomorrow arvo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted January 20, 2018 If it's from a 1977 F100 it won't be a US-cast 351C, as they stopped making them in the States after 74. All US "cleveland" type engines cast after that were 400s or 351Ms.Ford H/D commercials have a different kind of chassis number to a Falcon, so your engine number starting with "A" is correct for an F-series. The last digit on the engine/chassis number should tell you what engine it is (pre- or post- ADR36 V8). Going off what info you have, it should read something like:ALIJTP------CA = USAL = Broadmeadows (Commercial) Ass'y Plant1J = F100 4x2T = 1977P = April(serial number)C = emissions spec 351 V8To confirm if it's an Aussie-cast block, it should have a "GF" (Geelong Foundry) in the top of the block next to the oil pressure sender. US-cast has "CF" (Cleveland Foundry) with the "C" wrapped around the "F".The part number starting with D2 is no indication of country of origin as the Aussie casting has no significant changes from the US one: they are both "square" blocks as opposed to the earlier "D" blocks. (D0VE for example). The only differences I can think of are the casting methods and the hardness of the material ie: Aussie blocks used a harder iron.The fact that it came from an F100 doesn't mean it has any mechanical significance over one that came from a Falcon, other than perhaps having double fan belt pulleys or whatever other heavy duty items the trucks might have had (dunno exactly).My 302 clevo came from a 1975 XB ute and was US-cast (very close to the changeover date to Aussie production). Yours would definitely be a locally cast block.Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crustydog 46 Posted January 20, 2018 7 hours ago, gerg said: If it's from a 1977 F100 it won't be a US-cast 351C, as they stopped making them in the States after 74. All US "cleveland" type engines cast after that were 400s or 351Ms. Ford H/D commercials have a different kind of chassis number to a Falcon, so your engine number starting with "A" is correct for an F-series. The last digit on the engine/chassis number should tell you what engine it is (pre- or post- ADR36 V8). Going off what info you have, it should read something like: ALIJTP------C A = USA L = Broadmeadows (Commercial) Ass'y Plant 1J = F100 4x2 T = 1977 P = April (serial number) C = emissions spec 351 V8 To confirm if it's an Aussie-cast block, it should have a "GF" (Geelong Foundry) in the top of the block next to the oil pressure sender. US-cast has "CF" (Cleveland Foundry) with the "C" wrapped around the "F". The part number starting with D2 is no indication of country of origin as the Aussie casting has no significant changes from the US one: they are both "square" blocks as opposed to the earlier "D" blocks. (D0VE for example). The only differences I can think of are the casting methods and the hardness of the material ie: Aussie blocks used a harder iron. The fact that it came from an F100 doesn't mean it has any mechanical significance over one that came from a Falcon, other than perhaps having double fan belt pulleys or whatever other heavy duty items the trucks might have had (dunno exactly). My 302 clevo came from a 1975 XB ute and was US-cast (very close to the changeover date to Aussie production). Yours would definitely be a locally cast block. Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk Thats where it gets confusing. I have no idea what vehicle it originally came out of, i removed it from an xb sedan. But the engine number tells us its a US block from a 77 f100? Yet they stopped making them in the usa in 74. So how is a US block marked for 1977? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted January 20, 2018 Thats where it gets confusing. I have no idea what vehicle it originally came out of, i removed it from an xb sedan. But the engine number tells us its a US block from a 77 f100? Yet they stopped making them in the usa in 74. So how is a US block marked for 1977? Ok it's a bit hard to explain but during assembly, the engine number takes on whatever chassis it goes into, regardless of where the engine was made. In your case, it's a truck chassis assembled here from US-made parts. If it was cast in 77, it's a local block. Around that time, we were starting to export the blocks back to the US for NASCAR use, so they were well and truly used up over there.Another example: My Cortina engine number started with "CG58" as that's what a Cortina chassis came with, despite the engine being a locally made 6.C = Great BritainG = Geelong assembly58 = Cortina 6-cyl GL sedanAny clevo will bolt straight into any vehicle that had a Clevo as an option. In my case, an XB ute engine ended up being rebuilt for someone's F100 which was never installed but sold to me to go into my XE wagon. See what I mean? A lot can happen in 40-odd years so it's no surprise that your block ended up in a Falcon.Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk 3 XPT, Mr Polson and Crustydog reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crustydog 46 Posted January 21, 2018 Yeah that does makes sense. I appreciate the help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,881 Posted January 21, 2018 My 11/74 XB GS Panelvan has a 1977 F100 block in it..... oh how I yern for the original matching numbers block... 1 Crustydog reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartyMcPoo 0 Posted October 21, 2019 Hi All. I'm hoping someone might be able to fill in some of the blanks for me on an engine I've just bought - it's a cleveland 351, 2 bolt mains with 2v Aussie heads. The casting is D2AE-CA & 7B28 : So cast 28th Feb 1977 Engine No: AL4KTA51612K A = USAL = Broadmeadows (Commercial) Ass'y Plant4K = ?T = 1977A = January 51612 = serial numberK = ? Any help appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted October 21, 2019 Here's a breakdown of your codes from Xfalcon (go down a few posts)http://www.xfalcon.com/forums/index.php?/topic/1192-code-breaking-your-motor/page-7The 4K means body configuration. Yours is an F100 4x4.K on the end of the engine/chassis number just means V8.So it's a locally made 351C out of an imported F-series CKD kit. Sent from my CPH1903 using Tapatalk 1 bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FartyMcPoo 0 Posted October 22, 2019 That's great - thanks Gerg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul F 3 Posted August 10, 2020 Hi I am having trouble Decoding my v8 Cleveland for all its info. I need to get it correct for regency park approval paper work before I fit it, can anyone please help. I keep getting stuck or I am just stupid. HA,HA. My Engine No is: JH63WT15958K & Cast No is: D2AE-CA, underneath that is 9B15. Thanks Paul 1 bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,881 Posted August 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Paul F said: Hi I am having trouble Decoding my v8 Cleveland for all its info. I need to get it correct for regency park approval paper work before I fit it, can anyone please help. I keep getting stuck or I am just stupid. HA,HA. My Engine No is: JH63WT15958K & Cast No is: D2AE-CA, underneath that is 9B15. Thanks Paul It's from an 08/79 Fairlane - JG63WT 15B9 = block casting date code = 15/02/79 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul F 3 Posted August 10, 2020 Thank you for your help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted August 10, 2020 JH = Brisbane buildSent from my CPH1920 using Tapatalk 1 SPArKy_Dave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul F 3 Posted August 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, gerg said: JH = Brisbane build Sent from my CPH1920 using Tapatalk 46 minutes ago, gerg said: JH = Brisbane build Sent from my CPH1920 using Tapatalk Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted August 11, 2020 Have fun at Regency.... What project is it going in, I just handed in a Form for an engine swap, MR21 or something.? If the car came out with Clevos should be simple. If it's from interstate, then Vehicle Inspection Centre on Naweena st, car must be driven in, not on a car trailer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul F 3 Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, bear351c said: Have fun at Regency.... What project is it going in, I just handed in a Form for an engine swap, MR21 or something.? If the car came out with Clevos should be simple. If it's from interstate, then Vehicle Inspection Centre on Naweena st, car must be driven in, not on a car trailer. I have a xe s pack 6 cylinder wagon with SA rego, wanting to put a v8 Clevo in it. Have to apply to regency for regulations before I fit. 1 bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted August 11, 2020 Don't think a lot has changed, but, I've done 3 or 4 engine swaps, and not needed to go to Regency. XE came out with Clevo's so should be a change of engine form, and pay the difference in rego from a 6 to an 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted August 11, 2020 Dunno about your state laws, but in NSW you would technically need an engineer's if the build date is 83 onwards, as Ford killed the clevo in late 82.Sent from my CPH1920 using Tapatalk 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,312 Posted August 11, 2020 my mod plate guy is awsome 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites