Panko 2,480 Posted May 22, 2017 Cheers guys. I always thought it was meant to work with no sealant, but i was wrong. checked the workshop manual, and it talks about it having sealant in there so i might have a go at putting some sealant in where its leaking, seeing though i know exactly where it is, and its obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,400 Posted May 22, 2017 I'd be inclined to run the sealant all the way round. Even though you have identified the leak, the actual path of the water may come from further up the frame and be working it's way down. You could drop by a windscreen joint and ask for a suitable tube of gunk, would probably be any non hardening mastic. 1 Panko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted May 22, 2017 yeah i would also be running masking tape around the edges so you can wipe off any exess without getting it on the paint or outside of the seal. i'd also seal it fully for the same reason.. water is amazing at finding the path of least resistance.. my gemini lets water between the glass, under the seal and up the other side of the rubber on the inside(possibly from wind pressurising it on the highway?) 1 Panko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 22, 2017 haha my leak is very obvious lol. its actually leaking from a gap where the rubber seal joins. i assume the seal has shrunk a little, causing it to open up. so the water goes in through the gap, and runs along the inside the rubber, onto the parcel shelf. shining a torch, i can see the hole or gap through the rubber at the bottom of the windscreen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted May 22, 2017 where does it go once inside? into the rust area.....creating its own drainage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 22, 2017 it runs onto the parcel shelf, which has vents that go straight into the boot, and thats were it goes. just drips straight into the boot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted May 23, 2017 that's where my gemini used to go to .. the boot.. and like 1000s of other geminis, the water needs to get out, so it makes rust.. water hates being locked in the boot obviously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,400 Posted May 23, 2017 See, ford thought about that and made it feel better by wiring the boot light to be on any time it's dark......🤔although you undid that so now you're stuck with cranky boot water...and noone wants that 2 deankxf and Panko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 23, 2017 haha my water just tends to make good friends with the boot carpet lol. 1 2redrovers reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XTREME KARTS XF 1,212 Posted May 24, 2017 On 5/22/2017 at 9:27 AM, deankdx said: My tip regarding windscreen rubber removal(to reuse) is wait till summer.. when the rubber is soft. we got BGDAVs F100 windscreen out without issue but it was much warmer. does the escort have a locking strip? that helps if so.. i got Marks XF ute window out without breaking the glass or damaging the seal from memory. same process i always use, lift up seal inside the car and tuck an extension cord or similar under it and keep doing that all the way round and by the time you get to the beginning area it will probably be out.. risk to reward ratio? as Rod says above... whats cheaper? a seal or a windscreen Yep i remember that, old electrical extension leads work quite nicely. Had that window out in no time 2 deankxf and 2redrovers reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 24, 2017 ok so time to fix up a few more things. got her home again for some more work. This little bugger has been causing the most god awful, rattle. like ball bearing in a tin can type of rattle. it was lose, all it took was to tighten and rattle be gone. its been there the whole time I've owned the car, its so good to have it finally shut up. removed the old 3w speaker from the passenger side door, and corrected the handles so they are more user friendly, and look better, and match the driver's door. next on the agenda, seek and destroy this annoying water leak in the rear windscreen. unfortunately that meant rear interior out, again, to remove the parcel shelf. yep its filthy under in there Ok, the leak. as tested with a hose, loads of water comes in through a gap you can see through, in the rubber seal in the middle under the high mount brake light. it appeared to be then running along the rubber seal on the inside to the corners. the parcel shelf had water damage on the passenger side where water had constantly sat and dripped through when it formed a rot hole. then i took a look at the corners. and now I'm not sure if the water is running along the rubber and into the corners, or if its also getting in through the corners. when we tested it with a hose, there was no sign of water getting in around the corners, no matter what we tried, to force it in there. gave him a wash while the weather was good 3 2redrovers, dex and SPArKy_Dave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted May 24, 2017 that's what my gemini does on the front windscreen, leaks under the glass and over the edge, it's quite unbelievable.. i wondered if it siphoned .. looks to have a locking strip.. should probably be a joiner piece( the gemini does) which might put extra pressure onto the glass. i'm sure you'll fix yours before i get to mine.. so i'm keen to see how it goes.. however.. BGDAV's back window on the XE needs a re seal, and both My gemini's do. and the F100 will also.. so not sure if to call a professional for a 4 car discount (or 5 if you waited longer) or whether to buy the goop and do it ourselves(most likely scenario.. will need to youtube it first) 1 Panko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 24, 2017 yeah mine has the locking strip and joiner. thats right where the water is coming in. i can see through it from inside the car to outside. I'm considering doing a dodgy and just trying to clean up and reseal the section thats leaking in the join with windscreen goop. until i can afford to buy the rubber, the locking strip and pay a pro to come do it. however, michael, my mate with the other 2 Mk1s, had issues with his rear screen. had to take it in and out a couple times, with sealant each time, to stop it. apparently the Escorts are a pig for windscreen leaks 1 deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,400 Posted May 24, 2017 As a first try, I'd take the locking strip out, then thoroughly clean under the rubber seal as much as possible. Once that's done, squeeze a continuous bead of windscreen sealant all the way around the window with particular emphasis around the visible leak. Then jam the locking strip back in before the goop sets off too much. Excess can be cleaned up after the strip is in. As noted, it's the slightly dodgy way to go but if it works you're all good and no harm done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 24, 2017 my concern with that is, that the rubber isn't as flexible as it should be, so its quite hard to get under it to clean it, without pulling it right out. but maybe i give that a go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,400 Posted May 24, 2017 Have you got a small bar or fan heater? Could use it to warm up a side at a time which would help soften the rubber. A couple of plastic wedges to hold the rubber up a bit while you clean the gap between them, then move along to the next bit. A hair dryer could work too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted May 24, 2017 how does the locking strip go in? (the gemini needs a tool, and mine all need replacing anyway.) have you rang a windscreen mob yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 24, 2017 hmm i have a few things i could use Rod. including an old hair dryer...in the garage for that reason no i haven't dean. i took the car to a local Novus glass place, but it wasnt manned, I'm assuming just a depot. 1 2redrovers reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,400 Posted May 24, 2017 Cool..just don't be tempted to use an actual heat gun as they are too intense and will burn or hurt something easily. Being near the glass you want a more gentle, gradual heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 25, 2017 Well, that didnt last long. Change of plan. The locking strip is that brittle i can break it between my fingers. So ive started removing it (breaking it out as i go) and ill just have to go the whole hog. Ill replace the rubber and locking strip and get someone to come remove the glass and refit when im ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,400 Posted May 25, 2017 Oh well..was going to happen sooner or later I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,288 Posted May 25, 2017 joys of owning an old car.. (and trying to fix it)(unlike Sparkydave.. who doesn't fix them) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,400 Posted May 25, 2017 Yeah think of all the fun he misses out on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 25, 2017 i told him the other day I'm going to steal his S pack wagon, because it is registered, and detail it for him, because it upsets me seeing it sit with a layer of green moss all over it 1 Mr Polson reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted May 25, 2017 i got quoted by National Windscreens in Pakenham $200 total for removal and re-fitting. ok not unreasonable, but if anyone wants to come help me, and save me that $200 id be very grateful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites