Splashv8 74 Posted February 26, 2019 I just finished replacing the spark plugs (used the Denso T16PR-U15) the Leads,Rotor button, and the cap But when I fired Monica up, it sounds very rough then will rev to 2-3k by it self then almost conk out, but won't. I was careful to number all the leads and mark the position on the Cap but Not sure where I have went wrong. I didn't gap the plugs if that helps? where have I gone wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted February 26, 2019 Yeah she's misfiring. its 38 freakin degrees out there! stuff it ima a have a beer and cone. and re-centre and re-align myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted February 26, 2019 5 litre Windsor with EFI ....?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted February 26, 2019 46 minutes ago, bear351c said: 5 litre Windsor with EFI ....?? Yes mate for the Splash ute, Same motor as the XH Xr8 I think. I will hit it Tomoz after noon when I get off work. I think it's the Plug or the lead. but she sounds a lot better. I couldn't believe the condition of the Rotor button, it looked worn out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,881 Posted February 26, 2019 Aftermarket Windsor distributor parts - cap/rotor etc, have caused me grief. I would suggest to only use genuine Ford (import from USA, through ebay USA). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted February 26, 2019 When you say "running rough", could you give a more accurate description? As in a cyclic miss like when one or 2 cylinders are out full time, or is it a random miss like a really lumpy cam?The high idle sounds like either a vacuum leak or the computer compensating for whatever is making it run rough. The EEC V has lots of self-learning functions so if anything changes, it might do some strange things for a while because it may have been compensating for something before that it no longer has to. A good place to start is to remove battery terminals for 30 min, refit and then key-on engine off, full-throttle for 2 min and back to idle. I have read this myself in other forums and is supposed to reduce the amount of learn time required to get it running right. Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted February 27, 2019 15 hours ago, SPArKy_Dave said: Aftermarket Windsor distributor parts - cap/rotor etc, have caused me grief. I would suggest to only use genuine Ford (import from USA, through ebay USA). I agree, always best to spend that lil extra and get the quality stuff. I don't think the cap or rotor button is OEM. 8 hours ago, gerg said: When you say "running rough", could you give a more accurate description? As in a cyclic miss like when one or 2 cylinders are out full time, or is it a random miss like a really lumpy cam? The high idle sounds like either a vacuum leak or the computer compensating for whatever is making it run rough. The EEC V has lots of self-learning functions so if anything changes, it might do some strange things for a while because it may have been compensating for something before that it no longer has to. A good place to start is to remove battery terminals for 30 min, refit and then key-on engine off, full-throttle for 2 min and back to idle. I have read this myself in other forums and is supposed to reduce the amount of learn time required to get it running right. Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk Yeah Gerg, I think you are right the ECU seems like its trying to re-adjust/learn and over compensate, its sounding more normal every time I turn it over. when it cools down outside I will disconnect the terminals like you said and start from scratch again. I also picked up Muzzas DTC device this avro, so I would like to run a diagnostic on it too, it may shed some light on the cylinder misfire. Its more of a boom.boom boom. bup bup, noise I can here out of the muffler, deff a misfire, not like a cross leads/wires sound but more of a Deep lumpy Stage 3 cam, then it almost stall, then rev to 2-3k. Its interesting you mention the Vacuum leak it was making a loud sucking noise last night when I kicked Monica over,I will also check the PCV. I will try and get some audio and video of it tonight its just too freakin hot out there right now to do anything. 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) This explains the sucking noise, check out the sneaky bugger. must of accidentally ripped it out while I was trying to get to the spark plugs https://imgur.com/21sE5k7 https://imgur.com/9e87kWu PS I forgot to ask does anyone know the technical name of that hose that connects in there so I can order a new one? Edited February 27, 2019 by Splashv8 Forgot to ask question 1 deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted February 27, 2019 This explains the sucking noise, check out the sneaky bugger. must of accidentally ripped it out while I was trying to get to the spark plugs https://imgur.com/21sE5k7 https://imgur.com/9e87kWu PS I forgot to ask does anyone know the technical name of that hose that connects in there so I can order a new one?Oh bloody hell... That'll do it! If it's specially molded, then sure order a new one. But if it makes no difference what shape it is, just get a metre of the same diameter and route it where you like. Where does that one go? Map sensor? Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,881 Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Splashv8 said: This explains the sucking noise, check out the sneaky bugger. must of accidentally ripped it out while I was trying to get to the spark plugs https://imgur.com/21sE5k7 https://imgur.com/9e87kWu PS I forgot to ask does anyone know the technical name of that hose that connects in there so I can order a new one? Does it go to the Charcoal canister hard line, or the PCV? I see it has a flared end. Does this help? 1 Splashv8 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted February 27, 2019 Here, I tapatalked itSent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk 1 Splashv8 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, SPArKy_Dave said: Does it go to the Charcoal canister hard line, or the PCV? I see it has a flared end. Does this help? Thats a negative dave, Looks like number 23 on that Diagram? what do you guys say? Heres a pic of the connection, it runs all the way behind the Airbox Filter and disappears into the Abyss. Also yes it does have a clip on it thats hard to see in that pic,I will get the Long nose pliers out and remove it. https://imgur.com/pQVKuwZ Man I tried to download Tapatalk but its confusing, Can we lift the Max size of the Photos so I don't have to keep emailing them to myself then using Imgur? Good call on the length of Hose Gert, I will run Down to the Hardware shop and see if I can pick it up. Edited February 27, 2019 by Splashv8 Called Gerg Gert lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted February 27, 2019 On second thought its #20 on that diagram I reckon. don't understand why it would be taking air into he Manifold via that tube though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted February 27, 2019 Never owned a 5.0 so can only use logic and say that it's most likely 23, but it has two of them opposite each other.... why it has the same part listed on both sides of the plenum is beyond me. Maybe one is blanked and the other used depending on which way the manifold is installed (IE Mustang or Explorer, etc).That bit you're holding is definitely flared out on one end like Dave said, maybe you'll need to get that diameter hose and shove another smaller one up its bum to reduce it down to whatever it needs to be at the other end. Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted February 27, 2019 Here it is for your tapatalkersSent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,651 Posted February 28, 2019 that is charcoal canister, you would definitely have a bad vacuum leak if that's split 2 gerg and Splashv8 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,651 Posted February 28, 2019 Never owned a 5.0 so can only use logic and say that it's most likely 23, but it has two of them opposite each other.... why it has the same part listed on both sides of the plenum is beyond me. Maybe one is blanked and the other used depending on which way the manifold is installed (IE Mustang or Explorer, etc). That bit you're holding is definitely flared out on one end like Dave said, maybe you'll need to get that diameter hose and shove another smaller one up its bum to reduce it down to whatever it needs to be at the other end. Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk been a long time since my 5.0 was stock but from memory you have vacuum to, brake booster, heater, charcoal canister, egr valve, fuel pressure reg, pcv, ed and earlier have vacuum to the cruise control and EB also has a vacuum source for the map sensor (ford dropped the map sensor and only have a maf from ed on) 2 Splashv8 and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted February 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, Thom said: that is charcoal canister, you would definitely have a bad vacuum leak if that's split Ok, My apologies then dave. I was lucky the hardware store had an almost Identical 16mm rubber tube, So I will undo that clip and replace it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted February 28, 2019 For it to function properly, you will need 'vacuum' hose. Its made to resist collapsing, not pressure. Just sayin'... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted March 1, 2019 I think this should do huh? 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted March 1, 2019 I think this should do huh? Yeah and make sure it's that colour too... Very importantSent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Splashv8 74 Posted March 2, 2019 21 hours ago, gerg said: Yeah and make sure it's that colour too... Very important Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk If you look very careful you can see the words "Motorcraft" in small print on the inside of the tube. I believe they are a very limited edition used by Ford and where only available in Hot gay Pink or Sassy Fluro Yellow. 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites