dunsta87 12 Posted March 5, 2017 hey people, im going to be putting a 393 clevo in my xw its about 500hp at the crank I have a toploader and c4 auto box at home im not sure which way to go as its mainly a cruiser and maybe the odd hill climb any thoughts? pros and cons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hendrixhc 10,921 Posted March 5, 2017 Id go auto. I find my toploader clunky and annoying after a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted March 5, 2017 Being a manual guy, it would be the loader for me. Hill climbs will be more fun rowing the gears yourself. True they can be a bit of a tractor box but a lot of that is down to what shifter you use and keeping the linkages adjusted and lubed properly. An old trick that I was told years ago is you drill a few tiny holes all around the friction surface on the syncros to help get the oil out, helps speed up shifts. Sent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk 1 dunsta87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted March 5, 2017 500HP and a cruiser...!! I'd go the beefed up C4. 500HP and hillclimbs...!! I'd go the top loader, with new linkages. Sorry, thats of no help at all. 3 dunsta87, user272 and XTREME KARTS XF reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,312 Posted March 5, 2017 which top loader do you have ? normal or close ratio ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunsta87 12 Posted March 6, 2017 ive got a rug-ar1 28 spline wide ratio but can get a 31 spline close ratio for $1500 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dunsta87 12 Posted March 6, 2017 ive still got the c4 auto that's beefed up that came with the 393 atm got the 351 clevo in her with the beefed up c4 as my other c4 auto was slipping bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SMIKXF / YEABRA 396 Posted March 8, 2017 I jus changed over to a C4 from a toploader mate.. I've got a 393ci 600hp n wouldn't be real cruiser friendly with a manual - depends what u like I guess but with big cam n horsepower I def think auto.. took me ages to change over 1 dunsta87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SMIKXF / YEABRA 396 Posted March 8, 2017 But the renegate shifter on the toploader was a lot of fun esp for track n hill climb stuff ✌️️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites