unfamilia 1,938 Posted September 30, 2014 My ignition is playing up on the start end of the Barrel. I bridged the pos terminal and ignition tab on the starter to test it and started first go. I need to order a new ignition barrel from overseas (not for a Ford) so how can I wire up this set up til it arrives (6-8 weeks). I know I could use just a momentary switch and 20 amp wires onto cabin but I would have thought a relay or fuse should be used as one wire will get permanent + from the starter terminal? Basic diagram anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted September 30, 2014 Oh the ignition key would still need to be In the on position for this to work. It's like a start engine button. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted October 1, 2014 You'll find that your ignition is wired that way anyway (constant 12v to starter switch) so don't be too worried about it. Your starter solenoid normally draws 8 amps initial and 4 amps constant, so a 20 amp switch would be fine. No need to fuck around with relays, ect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted October 1, 2014 Cheers. A mate said just the off the 2 pins off the back of the ignition switch to the momentary switch. that way no wires through the fire wall and post fuses. 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,271 Posted October 1, 2014 Sounds right. Let us know how ya get on. Not for an Aussie car? Do tell........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted October 1, 2014 Just be careful if it's manual Unfamilia, we used to do remote controlled remote starters for Autos (illegal for manuals), but manuals got to be out of gear or they run away.... LOL Jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted October 2, 2014 Won't bump starter if I hook up through ignition switch, key Still needs to be In on position for power Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted October 2, 2014 Make sure you're not drawing too much from that circuit, might not fire up if volts are too low, or you could blow an ignition fuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valvebouncer 2,389 Posted October 2, 2014 Sounds like a common Honda and Toyota fault. If your still getting a little voltage throught but not enough to engage the starter solenoid I'd just be wiring up a starter relay instead of replacing the ignition barrel. It'd only set you back $20 or less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted October 3, 2014 Got a diagram for the wiring? I'd like it to be only active when key is in to on position on the standard ignition switch so can't be bumped when no key in the Barrel. So my thoughts are splice into wire on ignition switch for power at on position and the wire that bumps the solenoid. not sure how to wire it in with relay if urs needed. If i wired it to just tgese two wires woukd it draw too many amps to bump start? I need a pic as I'm a visual person Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valvebouncer 2,389 Posted October 3, 2014 https://www.google.com.au/search?q=relay+wiring&client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=372&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=QAYuVKrsIoj-igLqlIGICg&ved=0CCcQ7Ak#facrc=_&imgrc=wGKJKoVUxPUJ6M%253A%3BUh5_rLr9XqLI7M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.mp3car.com%252Fvbulletin%252Fimagehosting%252F12527647e9129233622.bmp%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.mp3car.com%252Fvbulletin%252Fthe-faq-emporium%252F117895-faq-relays-how-they-work-and-how-to-wire-it-up.html%3B453%3B385 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valvebouncer 2,389 Posted October 3, 2014 What type of car is this?<br />I have successfully pulled apart Honda, Toyota and commodore ignition switches, cleaned and in some cases, soldered the contacts, put it back together and it worked fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted October 3, 2014 Where it says dual fans just hook up to starter solenoid? looks simple Or would the output be just to the starter solenoid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted October 3, 2014 The top one looks constant, bottom one more what I'm after. would the fused 12 volt in on the bottom one be from the battery terminal on starter or ok to take off the back of ignition switch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted October 3, 2014 I've used this on old car before if I hook up pin 30 to battery pin 87 to solenoid pin 86 from ignition Switch power when key at on position then that would do It yeah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valvebouncer 2,389 Posted October 3, 2014 86 ignition power, 85 earth, 30 direct to battery, 87 to starter solenoid. Use a 4 pin relay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted October 3, 2014 Well I wired it all up works as it should then spoke to a mate that's a sparky, he said just hook up switch from near ignition switch from acc power when In on position and into the trigger wire to solenoid. That's all the ignition switch does at that position and it's fused already. Wired it up will try in morning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unfamilia 1,938 Posted October 4, 2014 Tested the 2 wire set up today, much neater only 10cm of wire not 2m of It. Works a charm only allows signal on "on" position and only if you hold the switch. Strangely the stock barell worked intermittently at the start position so I could test the wiring with a light probe. 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites