NZXD 2,328 Posted August 4, 2015 when you use shorter dampers they limit droop by an inch or more and this will keep the lowered spring captive, this another reason why cutting springs=bad as you can actually have the spring fall out keep in mind that the V8 springs are based on iron heads and iron intake manifold, if you have alloy heads and alloy intake manifold then use the 6cyl springs on V8 powered x series When I had a Cleveland in my XD the top of the front tyre sat with the guard as in MNTLXD, as the springs are the 59 kings. When I dropped the alloy headed Windsor in, the front sits a good inch up higher. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted August 4, 2015 Windsor is a smaller and lighter block isn't it on top of the alloy heads being lighter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broken-wheel 659 Posted August 4, 2015 nope, a Clevo with alloy heads, alloy intake and alloy water pump/timing chain cover is same weight as a xflow and much lighter than the whizzer which never really came out with Alloy heads in OZ if i'm not mistaken even the GT40 heads were iron, maybe the GT's got the alloy ones Ford 250 Alloy headed xflow 451 pounds Ford BOSS 302 500 pounds Ford 351 Cleveland 550 pounds (includes BOSS and Australian 302-C)Ford 351 Windsor 510 pounds Ford 5.0 V8 411 pounds 89 Mustang 5.0 GT (dry) inc: manifold,carb(?), headers and alternator. Notinc: starter, smog pump, power steering pump, AC compressor, flywheel these are stock engines see: http://www.bacomatic.org/~dw/library/txt/engfyi.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted August 4, 2015 I don't think those weights on that site are accurate at all. Some vary by more than 100 pounds for the same engine type. And a 2.3 pinto weighing almost as much as a Windsor? Gimmie a break. My memory tells me 250 kg for iron clevo, 210 for iron windsor, 190 for alloy crossflow. The weights can vary greatly with single or dual exhausts, air con or not, auto or manual, power steer or manual. All this shit adds up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted August 4, 2015 nope, a Clevo with alloy heads, alloy intake and alloy water pump/timing chain cover is same weight as a xflow and much lighter than the whizzer which never really came out with Alloy heads in OZ if i'm not mistaken even the GT40 heads were iron, maybe the GT's got the alloy ones Ford 250 Alloy headed xflow 451 pounds Ford BOSS 302 500 pounds Ford 351 Cleveland 550 pounds (includes BOSS and Australian 302-C) Ford 351 Windsor 510 pounds Ford 5.0 V8 411 pounds 89 Mustang 5.0 GT (dry) inc: manifold,carb(?), headers and alternator. Notinc: starter, smog pump, power steering pump, AC compressor, flywheel these are stock engines see: http://www.bacomatic.org/~dw/library/txt/engfyi.htm I believe the first of the T Series Tickford AU 200kw 5.0 had FMS alloy gt40 heads. The Windsor I dropped into my XD is from an AU, however has edlebrock alloy heads, carb intake, timing cover, water pump etc etc, and due to the weight saving over a iron headed clever lifted the front end by an inch. On a Windsor you save a good 20kg (44 lbs) on swapping to alloy heads alone, so she is a real light engine. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 xSMOKEx reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted August 4, 2015 Yeah 302 Windsors are a sweet little donk. The only iron block that I know of that is lighter is the Holden V8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xSMOKEx 47 Posted August 4, 2015 I believe the first of the T Series Tickford AU 200kw 5.0 had FMS alloy gt40 heads. The Windsor I dropped into my XD is from an AU, however has edlebrock alloy heads, carb intake, timing cover, water pump etc etc, and due to the weight saving over a iron headed clever lifted the front end by an inch. On a Windsor you save a good 20kg (44 lbs) on swapping to alloy heads alone, so she is a real light engine. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk yep you are correct AU's came out with the GT40p heads they also had the better intake manifold from the fox body Ho Mustangs , ford explorers also came out with them. it is where i got my set from for my fairlane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted August 7, 2015 I believe the first of the T Series Tickford AU 200kw 5.0 had FMS alloy gt40 heads. The Windsor I dropped into my XD is from an AU, however has edlebrock alloy heads, carb intake, timing cover, water pump etc etc, and due to the weight saving over a iron headed clever lifted the front end by an inch. On a Windsor you save a good 20kg (44 lbs) on swapping to alloy heads alone, so she is a real light engine. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk damn im glad i looked at this . i am actually going thru what springs to order today for my car.. and in the next few months it will be getting alloy heads ! .. good excuse to go lower than i was going to originally lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
