NZXD 2,328 Posted December 27, 2013 Should work out then. What spline is the gearbox shaft that the clutch sits on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 27, 2013 Same as my single rail, so you could use any eb-au v8 clutch kit and flywheel. The one I got is for a 94 mustang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted December 27, 2013 Same as my single rail, so you could use any eb-au v8 clutch kit and flywheel. The one I got is for a 94 mustang. With the 164 / 157 teeth difference between the windsor and the cleveland. is the outside diameter of the ring gear different? :S I cannot remember weather i had a 10.5 or 11" clutch in the cleveland, do i just measure the clutch disk outside diameter? Stupid ford for not just making them ALL ZERO BALANCE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 27, 2013 The clevo 164 will be the 11 inch, the 157 takes the 10.5 inch or that's what I have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted December 28, 2013 I am going into geelong today, soon, to get the engine mounts off of the clevo and the clutch and flywheel. for some reason i remember the guy who built the clutch kit saying that the bellhousing only takes a 10.5" clutch so he had to get a windsor clutch with the clevo balance lol :S Also going to see if the engine fits in and the aircon/front accessorys ect fit in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revhead 1,392 Posted December 28, 2013 hey also fit a set of e series fuel lines as well from a v8 i have a spare set Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted December 28, 2013 Why, Rev. Whats different?? Thought the old XB 5/16" lines would have been enough. Just interested....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 28, 2013 hey also fit a set of e series fuel lines as well from a v8 i have a spare setI think he's running a carb, and seen the 302 is stock the std lines will be ok. Plus he previously ran a 351, so lines would be up to the task. 1 revhead reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revhead 1,392 Posted December 28, 2013 I think he's running a carb, and seen the 302 is stock the std lines will be ok. Plus he previously ran a 351, so lines would be up to the task. i was thinking he might go EFI AND NEED A RETURN LINE Why, Rev. Whats different?? Thought the old XB 5/16" lines would have been enough. Just interested....... nothing as above ,lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 28, 2013 Are you yelling at me rev (capitals) haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revhead 1,392 Posted December 28, 2013 nah ,lol couldnt be bothered re-typing it caps was on,lol 1 NZXD reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted December 28, 2013 Going lpg, thought i mentioned that , straight gas, impco 425. the 351 and the 302 were both setup for the 425 ect 302w already has a torker2 intake on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 28, 2013 My lack of attention to detail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revhead 1,392 Posted December 28, 2013 Going lpg, thought i mentioned that , straight gas, impco 425. the 351 and the 302 were both setup for the 425 ect 302w already has a torker2 intake on it i too am going straight gas,ive ditched the injection, have made my own intake to bolt on a bigger throttle body,straight to the 4 barrel manifold,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted December 29, 2013 i too am going straight gas,ive ditched the injection, have made my own intake to bolt on a bigger throttle body,straight to the 4 barrel manifold,, Pics of intake manifold u made? ive made the 650 baseplate utealize the TPS and the ISC . but i dont need that anymore , the DC ltd used it for the auto ect . although i might see if there are aftermarket ISC computers , i absolutly hate! having any gas come out of the exhaust at idle . an isc might help, if i tune the idle mixture really lean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revhead 1,392 Posted December 29, 2013 you need to look at my build thread http://www.ozfalcon.com.au/index.php?/topic/127-petes-xe-mess/page-11#entry51747 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted January 1, 2014 you need to look at my build thread http://www.ozfalcon.com.au/index.php?/topic/127-petes-xe-mess/page-11#entry51747 Looks good man! so many mods lol! Ive found out the clutch that was running on the 351, was a 157 tooth , 6 bolt 10" clutch.. i think it was 157 tooth because of the bellhousing now to find a flywheel for a 302 and a 10" clutch kit.. EDIT: 5 mins later.. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Falcon-Clutch-kit-eb-ed-ef-el-au-heavy-duty-/390025532782 seems its using an 6 cly e series clutch. the one that came off of the car was shagged . he diddnt set the slave cylinder up properly , and shimmed it so there was literally NO CLEARANCE FFS. it was a brass button with springs that i paid like 700$ for lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted January 1, 2014 You will find that the 50oz flywheel will require the 10.5 inch clutch, but I'm sure the .5 of an inch won't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted January 1, 2014 You will find that the 50oz flywheel will require the 10.5 inch clutch, but I'm sure the .5 of an inch won't matter. Is there any reason for that or ? i would assume its because the bolt pattern on the flywheel / clutch kits? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted January 1, 2014 Yeah that could be the issue. I'd source a xr8 flywheel and clutch kit, all sorted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted April 26, 2014 Yeah that could be the issue. I'd source a xr8 flywheel and clutch kit, all sorted. Sorted the flywheel, gotta pick that up mounted the engine , fits like a glove! The only trouble i had was near the o2 sensor on the passenger side, it hit one of the suspension bolts , but i unbolted it at the flange so thats all good now Just gonna get it running with the impco425, plumb the power steering with braided flex lines, ect. Also have to obviously clean it all up and cut down most of the loom.. Not sure if these dizzys need an MSD box of the OEM computer to run properly ? The efi 5.0s come out with roller cams if im not mistaken? If so whats a good cam to put in it ? i am also not sure on what timing gears/chain they have from factory if they are anything like the OEM clevo stuff i want to replace it lol Ive decided to ditch the clevo for this car all together timeline should go like this > efi 302w get that running with a new cam > start collecting parts for forged windsor boost motor > fabricate the turbo piping for the gt4088 > install turbo, tune if for low boost > Most likely need a new clutch after a few months > sort out any lpg supply issues IE 2 converters 2 lockoffs ect, that will be needed for higher boost > install a crank trigger kit on it to get it sequential spark, prolly COP > Diff will prolly be blown up by this stage so get a 9" built > get alloy headed windsor built with forged internals > swap motors , more boost > eventually end up with liquid lpg injection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,650 Posted April 27, 2014 Not sure if these dizzys need an MSD box of the OEM computer to run properly ? The efi 5.0s come out with roller cams if im not mistaken? If so whats a good cam to put in it ? i am also not sure on what timing gears/chain they have from factory if they are anything like the OEM clevo stuff i want to replace it lol tfi style dizzy can be run with an aftermarket timing controller like some of the xflow boys on here, 86 on 5.0's were roller engines, yes they do have a shitty single row timing chain in standard form, to setup for crank trigger I would use an au timing cover, harmonic balancer, and front drive accessories (as a bonus the au setup is shorter than early 5.0) also when ordering cams make sure to specify it's a factory roller 5.0 as early blocks are a little different in the lifter gallery and required a slightly different lifter to later engines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted April 27, 2014 tfi style dizzy can be run with an aftermarket timing controller like some of the xflow boys on here, 86 on 5.0's were roller engines, yes they do have a shitty single row timing chain in standard form, to setup for crank trigger I would use an au timing cover, harmonic balancer, and front drive accessories (as a bonus the au setup is shorter than early 5.0) also when ordering cams make sure to specify it's a factory roller 5.0 as early blocks are a little different in the lifter gallery and required a slightly different lifter to later engines So i get a digital programmable MSD and im all good? I am not 100% on how the different types of dizzys work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAWDEAL 222 Posted October 26, 2014 Ok so the igniton box wont work with the crank trigger stuff like i wanted it to Had it running today with basic wiring in place and no cooling system ect ( just wanted to hear it run) The headers foul the starter on the drivers side.. I need headers that Dont dump down so close to the motor.. At the moment i can only get 1 bolt in the starter and the collector basically points at the solonoid lol Its got standard ltd type extractors on it at the moment Is there any off the shelf sets i can buy? A mate had a set of lukey extractors for an eb xr8 and they looked like they would work.. Unsure though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
