cleveland T5 conversion

[dvfalcon 354]

Just a enquiry, can I use a 5 speed out of a Ba 6 cylinder behind a cleveland using a modded single rail belhousing in a Xe.

Assessing the future of my Ba needs a bit of coin spent on it and not worth spending it as they are worth zip.

Thanks Dale

[gerg 10,871]

Looking at my single rail bell, it comes nowhere near bolting up to my T5. The bottom of the face ends way above the bottom 2 bolts of the T5 so not even any meat there to drill and tap into. That's why I got a toploader bell to do the job and even that needs a lot of stuffing around. Watch this space as I (eventually) do the conversion.

[NZXD 2,328]

Pitty you aren't in NZ, I have a t5 mustang bell housing going spare.

[Jimboclevor 0]

I did this conversion by cast welding two lugs for the bottom bolts onto the bellhousing, then milled the face flat, was a bit of stuffing around but it worked a treat!!!

[gerg 10,871]

I did this conversion by cast welding two lugs for the bottom bolts onto the bellhousing, then milled the face flat, was a bit of stuffing around but it worked a treat!!!

Yeah seen something like that done elsewhere. I quite like that method, very strong. Like you say a bit of a bitch but if you have access to all the good gear it's a much cheaper alternative than buying a bellhousing that "might" do the job. I'd rather modify a factory housing that I know works.

[gerg 10,871]

<br />Pitty you aren't in NZ, I have a t5 mustang bell housing going spare.

As far as I know, Mustang T5s are the longer input shaft type (by 5/8", same as E-series Windsor) so only go with that type of bellhousing. They're also for a 157-tooth flywheel, whereas Clevos are 164. His box is just your garden variety 6-cyl type so has toploader/single rail input length.

[dvfalcon 354]

As far as I know, Mustang T5s are the longer input shaft type (by 5/8", same as E-series Windsor) so only go with that type of bellhousing. They're also for a 157-tooth flywheel, whereas Clevos are 164. His box is just your garden variety 6-cyl type so has toploader/single rail input length.

So the input shaft for a ba 5 speed (6 cyl)is the length I require. Just trying to get my head around these gear boxs, and why most recommend using a eb-d gear box.

Thanks Dale

[gerg 10,871]

As far as I know, Mustang T5s are the longer input shaft type (by 5/8", same as E-series Windsor) so only go with that type of bellhousing. They're also for a 157-tooth flywheel, whereas Clevos are 164. His box is just your garden variety 6-cyl type so has toploader/single rail input length.

 

 

So the input shaft for a ba 5 speed (6 cyl)is the length I require. Just trying to get my head around these gear boxs, and why most recommend using a eb-d gear box.

 

Thanks Dale

Sorry correction, BA-onwards uses longer shaft but not sure how so. I would guess it's the 5/8" longer Mustang length and if so, that Mustang/EB V8 bellhousing would work but only if you put a 157-tooth Windsor flywheel on. Be careful as post-82 flywheels are 50-oz whereas you need a 28-oz for a Clevo, so for that option a pre-80s Windsor flywheel is the go. You're limited to the smaller Windsor clutch diameter with that flywheel. EA-ED boxes have the same length input as a single rail or top loader, hence easier fitment. Your BA gearbox might be more valuable left where it is.

[gerg 10,871]

Another option might be an adaptor/spacer that goes on the shorter bellhousing and uses the longer input T5 box. It changes the bolt pattern from toploader to the T5. They're available from the states for a bit over $100 US. That doesn't really help you going from a single rail pattern so some more machine work may be needed. It's so much more complicated than it needs to be, but there you go.