EL Cluster into XH?

[XF EDDIE 127]

I recently found an EL falcon 'sports' cluster with the oil and volt gauge for cheap and would like to replace the cluster on my XH as the screen has bleached and the last 4 digits are unreadable. Is this a direct swap, will I need extra sensors for the motor and can I change the odometer reading on the new cluster? Any help would be much appreciated!

[deankxf 20,741]

12 minutes ago, XF EDDIE said:

I recently found an EL falcon 'sports' cluster with the oil and volt gauge for cheap and would like to replace the cluster on my XH as the screen has bleached and the last 4 digits are unreadable. Is this a direct swap, will I need extra sensors for the motor and can I change the odometer reading on the new cluster? Any help would be much appreciated!

mate of mine said it's plug and play if you add the oil sender off the engine 

but.. without the trip meter, the odo will be dim (not able to change odo reading, professional instrument tech might be able to ) 
fixing the dim odo needs a resistor added somewhere apparently. 

be worth doing probably regardless. 

[XF EDDIE 127]

4 hours ago, deankxf said:

mate of mine said it's plug and play if you add the oil sender off the engine 

but.. without the trip meter, the odo will be dim (not able to change odo reading, professional instrument tech might be able to ) 
fixing the dim odo needs a resistor added somewhere apparently. 

be worth doing probably regardless. 

I thought both clusters had the trip meter?

When it gets here Ill tear the old one apart and see if i can just switch the ic that runs the odometer

[deankxf 20,741]

2 hours ago, XF EDDIE said:

I thought both clusters had the trip meter?

When it gets here Ill tear the old one apart and see if i can just switch the ic that runs the odometer

 not trip meter, (surprised i wrote that) 

the fancy extra guage the fairmonts have that show distance to empty etc, trip computer?

[XF EDDIE 127]

37 minutes ago, deankxf said:

 not trip meter, (surprised i wrote that) 

the fancy extra guage the fairmonts have that show distance to empty etc, trip computer?

Ahh so without that the screen will be dim? Seems a bit odd but I guess Ill find out. Also I suppose those are called trip meters cus I cant think of anything better to call them.

[deankxf 20,741]

21 minutes ago, XF EDDIE said:

Ahh so without that the screen will be dim? Seems a bit odd but I guess Ill find out. Also I suppose those are called trip meters cus I cant think of anything better to call them.

trip computer i think.

that's what i was told, the odo will be dimly lit without it. not sure why
there's some hack for it apparently, but i haven't seen it here. 

 

[XF EDDIE 127]

1 minute ago, deankxf said:

trip computer i think.

that's what i was told, the odo will be dimly lit without it. not sure why
there's some hack for it apparently, but i haven't seen it here. 

 

Seems weird but knowing ford it wouldn't be surprising

[SPArKy_Dave 9,232]

Made a quick copy/paste thread for u, @XF EDDIE

Read here -

 

 

EF-EL and XH clusters are all interchangable.

Mid series clusters - Fairmont, Police and XR - (with volt/oil) just need an oil pressure sensor fitted.

They're essentially plug and play.

(note - low coolant light will likely be illuminated, unless you fit a coolant level sensor, or a jumper wire)

 

The odometer dimming is only affected if u fit a Fairmont instrument cluster to a GLi.

(Fairmont clusters, need a resistor soldered onto the cluster circuit board)

XR and Police clusters, are not affected.

 

Fairmont dash light dimming is done by the BEM (incl, smartlock, central locking, interior light time-out, wipers etc).

Low series vehicles have a two stage dimming switch - dull, bright and interior light on - not controlled by the BEM.

Fairmont dimmer lever, is a momentary action - hold the lever and the dash lights progressively dim down, then back to bright.

 

Low series BEM's timeout the interior light like a switch,

Mid series BEMs, fade the interior light to off.

 

Odometer reading is stored in an EEPROM chip in the cluster

This chip can be de-soldered and swapped between gauge clusters, to retain the original reading.

The odometer backlight globe is a 1.2w grain-of-wheat globe, in a small plastic holder

 

I'm not sure if the odometer backlight globe wattage differs between low and mid series clusters, but I tried a 2w globe once and it was noticeably over-lit,

so changed it for a 1.2w.

[XF EDDIE 127]

43 minutes ago, SPArKy_Dave said:

Made a quick copy/paste thread for u, @XF EDDIE

Read here -

 

 

EF-EL and XH clusters are all interchangable.

Mid series clusters - Fairmont, Police and XR - (with volt/oil) just need an oil pressure sensor fitted.

They're essentially plug and play.

(note - low coolant light will likely be illuminated, unless you fit a coolant level sensor, or a jumper wire)

 

The odometer dimming is only affected if u fit a Fairmont instrument cluster to a GLi.

(Fairmont clusters, need a resistor soldered onto the cluster circuit board)

XR and Police clusters, are not affected.

 

Fairmont dash light dimming is done by the BEM (incl, smartlock, central locking, interior light time-out, wipers etc).

Low series vehicles have a two stage dimming switch - dull, bright and interior light on - not controlled by the BEM.

Fairmont dimmer lever, is a momentary action - hold the lever and the dash lights progressively dim down, then back to bright.

 

Low series BEM's timeout the interior light like a switch,

Mid series BEMs, fade the interior light to off.

 

Odometer reading is stored in an EEPROM chip in the cluster

This chip can be de-soldered and swapped between gauge clusters, to retain the original reading.

The odometer backlight globe is a 1.2w grain-of-wheat globe, in a small plastic holder

 

I'm not sure if the odometer backlight globe wattage differs between low and mid series clusters, but I tried a 2w globe once and it was noticeably over-lit,

so changed it for a 1.2w.

Thanks for the rundown. I'm pretty sure its not a fairlane cluster but ill just plug it in and see what happens. Also is the oil pressure sender in the same position as on the crossflows?

[SPArKy_Dave 9,232]

16 hours ago, XF EDDIE said:

Thanks for the rundown. I'm pretty sure its not a fairlane cluster

 

Fairlane/LTD aka high-series clusters, are quite different again

Passenger side of the engine block I believe?

[deankxf 20,741]

5 hours ago, SPArKy_Dave said:

 

Fairlane/LTD aka high-series clusters, are quite different again

Passenger side of the engine block I believe?

 

22 hours ago, XF EDDIE said:

Thanks for the rundown. I'm pretty sure its not a fairlane cluster but ill just plug it in and see what happens. Also is the oil pressure sender in the same position as on the crossflows?

 

Oil sender on e series engine is passenger side but closer to the dizzy. 

Could be difficult to get your hand in there (from underneath is Probably the only way)