Outback Jack 6,352 Posted May 21, 2014 Heya guys, need some help. Managed to scrape some coin together and looking at getting all my brakes done after me foot heals up. Will be changing out all 4 calipers and maybe the brake booster if needed. I am wondering, was there a factory XF/XG model with twin piston Calipers that will bolt straight up as a slight upgrade on the front? Would be good while I have to do them anyway. Rears I will will buy new calipers for, but just standards. Also, is there someone in SW WA who does brakes AND knows their XG's who wants a job? I want it done properly though, no bullshit artists or rip off pricks. Only members or trusted close friends with reputable buisnesses, no mates of mates.... been there done that. She's only got the stock motor aand stuff, so no need to go silly with racing brakes. Just would like them all to work properly. Ute has T2 slotted disks all round and bendix Advance pads on her. I have taken it to 2 places now and been charged for them to be worse than when I took them in. Drag everytime I reverse or take off at low speed. Maybe dragging while driving. Used to work fine, until the workshop from hell got to them. One mechanic did say last time, the right rear wheel wouldn't free spin till he loosened the caliper bolt.... but I dunno what causes that. I know a place in Myaree that do good work, well they did 20 years ago.... lol ....., but it's 200km away, which I will drive if thats the only option. I'm a pensioner so can't afford to get shafted on this job again. Already had to fix a dodgy suspension job etc that was done by a workshop. I could buy the parts from Perth Brake Parts for a decent price and do it in the garage here, but I need a tool for the rear calipers to wind em in and out and I haven't done rears before, so a bit nervous. Pretty much I just don't want to stuff it up, because it's my daily. Cheers fellas. Jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binary-fuel 4 Posted May 22, 2014 I did some researched when I wanted to upgrade my xg brakes so far there is the only standard piston that I could find, as for the other x models I haven't found one with twin piston that would fit in.By the sound of what your brake are doing I do think that the piston rubber ring that works the piston inside has ether worn out or the piston has wear on it and rubbing against this ring. Just a guess, because mine had this issue. For some reason the wheel wouldn't spin but once I adjusted it, it then worked but then had a a lot of friction to where it took a lot of force to move. For me tho it was the rubber that is inside around the piston it was split which cause the piston to have issues retreating back and kept the pads pressed. As for your lack of funds issue, sometimes buying recon breaks are a cheap way to get new breaks. They replace the dust cap, the ring and recon the piston or in some cases replace it with a new one. If your like me new is always better but if it works like new smells like new and is clean as new, then it should be the same if they did a good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted May 22, 2014 Cheers Binary, yeah think I'll just replace the calipers with stock items, and make sure the booster/master cylinder are OK. Apparently AU twin pistons or BA twin pistons can be fitted, but requires adapters and flanginging lines to match, blah, blah, blah. My ute came from SA, so it's full of that fine limestone type dust, so dare say the calipers are flogged out. The mechanics would of had an easier job other wise. Rather pay a brake guy to fit recon calipers than pay for hours of ginning around trying to re-kit them. Plus they can set it all up properly and make sure there is no binding/ pressure problems caused by master cylinder or Booster. Single piston calipers were good enuff for these buses up till AU and always stopped well when set up well with good pads and discs, so good enough for me. Most things on the ute, I'll have a crack at myself, but brakes..... I've always been wary on them, get it wrong... no stoppy stoppy. May run it up to Perth and get Myaree Brakes to check her out and get her schmicko again. Doesn't look like I'll be climbing under any cars soon with me busted foot anyway.... lol Thanks for the reply man. Jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted May 22, 2014 There is a guy on the here doing club circuit racing with a clevland in his xe. He uses refurbed standard girlock calipers. The pads, brake lines and fluid were all upgraded but he had no problem with brakes fading or stopping. He uses QFM brake pads. I know your not racing but if it can be fine on the track it will be fine on the road 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted May 25, 2014 Yeah cheers Wagoon , I was thinking along the same track. I got good discs (dba T2)and pads(bendix Advance), so just standard calipers and maybe some braided brake lines and new wheel bearings ,should get her humming nicely. I can't wait to get them fixed, will be nice to be able to have responsive brakes again. If it wasn't for this damn cast I would drive it up next week.... lol. Jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agentkiwi 110 Posted May 25, 2014 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Falcon-Rear-Calipers-XE-XF-Free-postage-/141276582586?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20e4bd92ba&_uhb=1 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Falcon-XE-XF-Front-calipers-/141291901620?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20e5a752b4&_uhb=1 Would these work? Bit pricey but? You sure a seal kit & clean up wont sort your original ones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted May 25, 2014 Heya Agent, yeah thats pretty much what I'm looking at , Perth Brake Parts has all 4 corners for around 200 each remanufactured. I have a stuffed back, as well as a cast on my leg for next 4 weeks, so me removing/rekitting/refitting and adjusting them all it is a bit outta the question.... lol I mean, they don't leak and I have flushed the whole brake system twice now, two workshops have fiddled with them and not been able to get them to play ball, always seizing and stuff. They just shit me, so all new be the best bet, and have it done by brake specialists, so it's all done correctly. If I do it , it is pain for me under the ute, and pain for the next week or so, because I don't know when to stop......haha Jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agentkiwi 110 Posted May 25, 2014 Fair enough mate. You know what you can handle eh. Being brakes too it's not something you wanna fuck it up & end up In a full body cast when she won't pull up! To be honest when I did mine there was a couple of times when I wished I hadn't. Can cross that 1 off now. 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted May 25, 2014 LOL , shit happens Agent, I just deal with it, but yeah it limits me a bit. I agree mate, I poured burning hot cooking fat over me right knee (on leg not in a cast) on the weekend, so no more injuries for me would be kinda nice...... I've piss farted around with them enough now, and its my daily, so bite the bullet and pay for em to get done. Jack. 1 agentkiwi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agentkiwi 110 Posted May 25, 2014 When the old ones are off you can rekit & clean them up easy then. Keep em as spares or recoup most of the outlay for the new ones. There's always a bright side! 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted August 18, 2014 Unfortunately Kiwi, they are Exchange units and they wouldn't let me pay extra to keep the old ones, they go back to be remanufactured. Brakes have been replaced........ Everything, just gotta fine tune em and should be apples. Cheers for the replys. Jack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
