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The serpentine setup has a reverse rotation water pump

that rules that out for keeping the hoses off the XG radiator standard.. need an adapter made up.

I was given this link regarding using a "better" ECU .. EL one is apparently faster.

http://www.tiperformance.com.au/knowledge-base/fitting-an-el-ecu-to-an-ea-ed-falcon/

Thanks Thom,

think i'll drop in at the local wreckers and jam an EF radiator in an XG.. see if that causes any issues,

or will an EB water pump fitted to the AU donk fix the different hose size issue keeping the rare XG radiator(that i assume means the belts will need to be EB XG ish rather than serp belt.)

i think if i am pulling heads off and such, the XR6 head been on gas for 15 years (probably 200,000km also) might need some love anyway.. hence just dropping in something fresher and better(also cheaper than recoing anything also)

if i do anything i'll post up My findings, at the moment the "it works, don't touch it" rule is keeping it in one piece.

thread revival.. more questions.

eg.. have a current XG XR6 TICKford engine.. tired.. (noisy lifters etc)

running on dual fuel Impco(will attempt to fit an impco 425 in place of the 200 in front of the throttle body, log manifold)

don't really want to pull the XR6 engine apart..

not wanting extractors, figure the impco gas will be the biggest restriction..

thinking of a drop in engine that would be better(modding sump still fits the drop in rule for Egas AU engine)

due to running LPG, would the AU Egas be the better choice, preferably on dual fuel, even with the log manifold.

would an EL ecu be the best bet from one with tickford LPG fitted, assuming it can plug n play with a few wires added(for EL fans etc)

related questions that need confirming..

1. will it fit, mounting on XG base mounts and engine mounts(because its an XG with them already)

2. due to radiator hose diameter changing, will an EL radiator fit in XG(air con pipes might be in the way.. can move)

3. will the log manifold from the XG fit on the AU motor and be happy on premium petrol for dual fuel

4 will the AU serpentine setup on the AU pumps etc fit in the XG.. heard there is clearance issues on something, what's the fix if so

5. being auto, if using an AU auto, can the XG btr dipstick be fitted to the AU trans if its in better condition

6. will the AU auto plug n play with the XG wiring..

7. would an EL engine be a better option for various reasons(sump for eg, what about pumps clearance)

are the EL tickford Gas engines any different to a petrol one(cam,comp ratio etc)

will a 3.45 diff ratio cause any issues on an EL ecu etc from something with say 3.08 etc (assuming thats what the EL came with)

is it worth using the EL engine, to make use of the XG XR6 cam if its in good condition still.(rather than the AU Egas)

is an XG XR6 ecu better than an EL one in any way..

would the BBM manifold be better than a log manifold when it has an Impco gas mixer as a restriction

paging Thom etc..

ahh, i see what you are trying to do now.. am surprised that the caliper fitted that other bracket to be honest.

i haven't seen your caliper mount before if you are holding the one off the ghia,. i have ONLY seen ones that look like the one below.

the one in your pic looks like it may mount straight up to the older XD type. one below is usual XF type and bolts on behind the axel.

its almost as if you have an XD type diff with XE\XF calipers fitted which i wouldnt have thought even would fit

they wont bolt up to the older caliper bracket,  if the bracket fitted the axel tubes then they could fit.

If you haven't bought the mixer yet, a 300 would be better. I had a Nolff's 300 on my Corty and went well, better than the 225 on my EA (accounting for the weight difference)

might need to get creative plumbing one up, but i agree, the 300a should be good. i am tempted to try one on an XG to replace an old 200

found this image which shows how someone adapted one

So I've got my new engine running and am really happy with it but I'm going to go to straight gas with an impco mixer on an efi manifold. Is a model L impco convertor best suited to a 220 mixer or would a b2 convertor be best? Would appreciate any input

Impco L and B2 are basically the same. plenty good for a 225 impco. NEW is the way to go on the converter, the old ones can be very old, and just undoing the screws to replace gaskets and diaphrams can be a challenge..

I think ive talked myself into a T56 today too but i need to find out if there is a shorter extension housing like we use from a mustang on the T5....

 

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there are kits for the shifter relocation, theres a pic of one done in the link below.

extension housing stays same though..

http://www.trifive.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1056000&postcount=13

Quick question, still haven't done this swap been doing other work. Is there any reason I couldnt use a few long lengths of braided hose in place of the factory hydraulic lines to make it easier to fit with engine in? One I can think of is the line would probably be pretty expensive

 

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hardest part of the hard lines fit up is the mounting clips into the chassis mounts.. if you were to use P clamps tek screwed in that would be simple.

DOH!!!  Spot on Greg, as I read the first few words I said to myself "good on ya of course that's what it is". Yeah Ando your description of the vdo sensor is spot on, that's the replacement one I put on.

 

Guess it's not worth wasting my time and money with getting another pressure switch then. Might just chuck a bung in the the hole and zip tie the connector in the harness up out the way.

 

Thank you once again for pointing out my complete lack of knowledge

good opportunity to fit an S pack cluster perhaps..

you could cut the top of the current XD tank and get the XF EFI pump housing (larger housing) plastic welded and sealed ? would be the easiest and most "legal" option then cutting up the floor and if its done right would be hard to tell it was ever done - never had it done but im assuming it can be done ? 

THIS IDEA would be good,

the EFI XE and XF tanks have a bigger opening for the fuel sender .. cant just screw them on but you could probably make a steel flange ring, oval shape, cut an oval shape into the XD tank and cut and mount an XG or XH E series wagan  pump assembly in with bolts and gasket and keep the current sender as a fuel guage.. .. not even needing plastic welding.(an e series wagon one might also work.. not sure what they look like)

E series wagon efi tanks are same fill point and mounting as XD -XFwagon etc probably not worth the hassle to mod.

XF wagon efi fuel pump  was mounted under the rear seat, probaby doable but resembles your current setup mildly(other than fuel lines dont run under the chassis rail(this cant be good for snagging on things surely)

you could probably get a small intank efi pump and mount it in the XD tank hose clamped to the XD sender, the honda one i took out once was pretty basic in mounting might be as simple as bending the pipes or extending the fuel pick up to the bottom of the tank if the pressure is same ...(check this)

note the milk bottle cap as reference to diameter of the pump itself

did you go the extra mile on the clutch cable mounting.. looks good!

something i saw somewhere,(might have been here) was someone running an XG or for that matter E series wagon tank in this instance, with the original XD sender also fitted to that same tank purely for the petrol guage side of things.... cost a bit, but if you are moving the filler neck its much of the same job anyway.

i actually wonder if an XE or XF efi tank would fit under the floor in the same spot if you cut the spare wheel recess out.. fuel neck in the correct spot, fuel guage would work..efi pump inside tank and sort of a swirl pot built in...
that would be My suggestion to look into. in my mind, i think you'll just have the spare wheel in the boot as the issue if your tailpipe runs the ouside of the leaf spring(look at Ants XD wagon for eg.)

Hmm ok. Ill need to do a run down to take a look at it. The diff in question is at Marks place

ask him if the disc can be removed once the caliper is off.. if so, same discs as yours.

if its the one he recently got, calipers probably need a going over by the looks.. or is this the one out of his XF ute (basher)

Are the discs at least interchangable between xd and xf? Cos mine havent done much work.

yeah discs from XD ghia and fairlane etc are same as XF. hand brake cable will also fit the XD diff.(calipers are different, caliper winding tool for brake pad change is different, uses two pins from memory)

the XC diff looks same and uses same calipers as the XD diff but the discs dont come off in the same way.(axel has to come out from memory on XC)

Well i did my brakes up. I think the calibers are larger and XFs run ventilated discs, XDs are solid.

XC XDs had vented discs, XD ghia disc is same as XE XF but the caliper is different

EA to EL were solid

pic of XD diff with brakes.

if i remember correctly the mounting face on the end of the axels is oriented differently.. (drum brake style on XD diff i think)

i vagely remember KCUF mounting EB brakes on a drum housing on his centura and just redrilling the mounting plates. but you'd have to check it..

the early diffs could be 2 types of rotor mounting, behind the axel like the 9" XC etc. and outside the axel like XE and XF..  i would guess you could re use your brakes on the XD housing if the wheel bearings are same type(XC ones wernt taper roller from my understanding).. but you'd need to check further on these points too..

i'd just use the brakes it came with if it was complete.. if not, then i'd investigate further..(i need a similar question answered..do gemini brakes on rear of petrol ones will bolt onto a diesel diff (commo disc rear fits the petrol diff, not sure on the Jap spec diesel diff though)

why not use the brakes the comes with, keep the stock wagon diff whole if it ever needs to be reused.

10mm isnt much of an offset difference if i understand correctly
seems a good easy conversion

so all the diff mods are a bolt on.. do the skyline axels measure the same length as corty.

XG will have a different flange to XF , pretty sure the uni joints are different (bigger) also

(assuming your XF diff has the stock diff yoke)(they can be fitted to the XF diff to suit the larger EB XG type)

for that kind of money i'd be making my own..

i cant see why it would need to be rubber insulated, the early ones weren't, they just  fitted a slot in the fork..

you might be able to buy a whole fork with it fitted cheaper even.. if they are still made(the bush hook thingy has tabs retaining it to the fork, so might not be removable in ford spare parts eyes, but they can be removed)

I'd like to hear the explanation for that quality

i used copper spray on My mates Rambler 343 V8 with similar pitting, drove all the way to WA from Vic towing a trailer and 20,000km before being sold with no issues still..
i believe there is a surface grinder thingy that can be used on blocks in the car.. not sure who'd have one though

is that clutch cable mount broken from clutch cable or some big chisel to make access for something