motoSycho

And Yay! rear seal turned up, and it fits! Got the 302W rubber jobbie. Each half has a little tab halfway around the curve. Do you cut this off? Or good to leave in place?

Ok. Easier and cheaper to buy a 650 at the moment. What does Spreadbore mean?

Cool. Looking like I will have to just bite the bullet and buy a new one. Trying to find a 465 in good usuable 2nd hand condition is not happening. Plenty of 650s floating about for some reason.

UUmmmm done that already

Ok, so 465 Holleys are expensive, and hard to find second hand! How about this 470? They even come with vacumn ports these days. That's got to be a handy thing? https://outlawspeed.com.au/shop/ho0-81571 Spent the day cleaning the motor internals and block today. Gave the bores a hone as well. Everything is now so clean you could eat off it! Rear seal should be here Thursday, so I can start putting it all back together when the arrive. Also cleaned all the mounting brackets and sump and gave them all a coat of gloss black. PCV valve popped straight into the rubber grommet on the rear of the alloy cover. Can I just pop a filter breather type thingy onto the hose protrusion just behind the filler cap? Or run a hose from there to a catch can?

Cheers thanks for that Gerg

It took some cleaning off the sump! Bloody silicon everywhere! Next question,,,, so many questions I've got the double row timing gear setup. When I put it back in do I just set it at 0dg TDC? Or is now the time to set it at one of the other settings, retarded or advanced?

Yep I'm just going on advice and tips from guys here. 465 seems to be a popular size for a crossy. I just need to find a decent one now. Pulled the rooted motor apart to pinch the sump and some other bits, and sweet Jeebus what a mess. The oil pickup was clogged up with strips of silastic and the sump was full of loose bits of silastic as well! No wonder it was fucked ! I gave this thing an oil change etc. when I first got it as well. The oil that came out of it didn't look that bad! And I have done sweet fuck all Ks on the new oil! I wish I had taken a photo of the sump before I gave it a clean.

Wow, does not take long at all to pull one of these apart! Glad I did, the plate that retains the cam was broken. Lucky I have 3 other motors here to pinch another one from. That's it??? Got to love old motors. I'll roll this out and give it a good going over and clean, and then give the bores a hone and start putting it back together. Rear seal won't be here til later in the week though. Also picked up a 4 barrel manifold for it, so I'll be hunting for a 465 Holley now.

Yeah I screwed up and got the wrong one. Should be able to exchange it. So changed my mind, again, and decided to go back to Plan 557 and strip the motor down and put it back together. The oil coating bits of it felt a bit gritty in spots, like it had got dusty at some stage. It will bug the crap out of me if I don't pull it apart and give it a good clean. I checked the pushrods for straightness etc and they were all good. Ok to reuse, or should I go new ones?

Sigh. I went to put the hardened dizzy gear on,,,,, and it is too big. It is the Crow Cams DG2A .530", which is supposed to be for the 250 Crossy dizzy. But both of the dizzys I have out of 1990 motors have the smaller shaft, which is a DG2 .490" gear! What the? Anyway, organising the right one.

The original motor out of the ute has the M10 and the one I am putting in now has the 7/16. I've only got two of the 7/16 bolts, I'll have to run into town and get some new ones. Back into a particularly shitty roster run at work, so only going to get a day here and there to get it together and back into the ute. Hopefully aim to get it in on the 18th!

Top end is on and it all does what it should! So had a closer look and this is an 83 block. The original motor out of my ute is an 84, (1990 build ute) and it looks like it has a rubber rear main in it. It also has slightly bigger bolts holding the flywheel on.

Thanks Dean. Yep, I'll run one. Just ordered a new one.

Didn't take anywhere near as long this time to pull the motor and box! Can I still run a PCV valve using the alloy EFI cover? I'll pull the box off tomorrow and rob what I need off the motor. Hopefully get the new motor finished and in over the next week or so (due to a shitty roster run)

Thanks guys, got a Durapro gasket set here, so good to go, and I'll order in a 302 Windsor rear main and swap the rope seal out. Ordered a rubber rocker cover gasket in on Thursday, so pretty much good to put it all together. Pulling the motor and box out of the ute today so I can get everything prepped and setup for the new motor to go in.

So this motor is obviously already together. But I am going to pull it apart again so I can double check everything and so I have a better idea of how it all works. Any recommendations on a head gasket? And is there is a better rear seal option over the rope jobbie?

It's a happening thing! 1000 klm round trip and home with the motor and another disc brake diff. And picked up the head and had my flywheel machined today as well! Turns out the head has larger inlet valves in it as well. No idea why. I just sat the roller rockers on there for the photo. It's home! I've now got this one out of an XG ute. And I also have another out of a V8 XE panel van.

I was thinking two of the paper gaskets. And more parts arrived today. Leads and clutch. It's pink, so you know it is good

Looks like 6, 10 or 12. I'll see what thickness alloy plate we have at work.

Yeah I can see if I can get a few cut. 8mm thick?

Ouch! Those Aussiespeed rocker cover spacers are expensive! Luckily we have a waterjet cutter at work that will do some jobs for me So I'll see if they can cut one for me. Would 8-10mm be thick enough to make sure I have plenty of clearance? Also getting some shock tower spacers cut Right! Off to Autobarn to pick up a heap of parts that have come in for me.

Lol, I've got one. It's sitting on my bench with some other stuff ready to do the motor swap. I'll be pulling the T5 out as well to put the new clutch in. I had a plastic bag taped on the arse of the original auto,,,,,,,, yeah, that didn't stay together

Bloody thing. I tipped it and the gearbox up accidentally and I had a wonderfully psychedelic pool of transmission fluid and coolant happening!

I have an auto flywheel that came off the block on the photos, as well as the starter motor and auto bellhousing. I can cut those pieces off that are holding the rear up and extend the frame to bolt to the rear of the bell housing. I reckon a starting stand would be a handy thing to have if I am going to be playing with these motors.