Undefeated
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Thanks Ando..yes Zorans good on carbs.
I kinda have some hope for this system.. it can substitute many systems and consolidates them into one, so cost wise balances out..so will order one soon. Hopefully my experience will be a good one.
but a couple things I like..
1)they can take mild boost.
2) they can run fans and ignition.
3) they are easily transferable from engine to engine, as long as a Holley Flange is there to bolt down on , so that opens up some options for possible later engine swap (maybe with some of Aussie speeds other manifolds)
4) there is a large support network, a simple search on YouTube for Holley Sniper shows Holley Tech vids, from installing 02 sensors to programming ignition, remapping fuel curves..
5) the master kit comes with everything needed including a inline fuel pump and fuel lines.
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I haven’t yet tried any of these systems..
Ando76, No, it was on a V8.. but if it’s atomisation then what would be better? Not saying a carb isn’t a bad way to go, I love carby motors and the more computerised the more I dislike..
I’ve had a few Aussiespeed manifolds through in both 2 & 4 barrel, yes aussiespeed have nice products, but I’m staying with the Redline tourqer manifold as that’s what’s available to me atm, I will possibly fit one of there pigs into it to try at a latter date.
So leaning towards the Holley sniper 2 barrel system over the FiTech as they have to many customer reports complaining about the lack of support. No problems there with the Holley sniper efi ( example: https://www.efisystempro.com/efi-pro-hangout/holley-sniper-efi-installation-tips). they wouldn’t risk there name on something that’s not well sorted,plus they have a very nice touch screen that lets the user play with afr graphs with just a swipe of the finger like a phone..but the Holley EFI supports up to 400hp / Fitech is 350hp on the 2 barrel systems.
The Sniper can control many functions including thermo fans and ignition control.
One thing of interest I noticed in this posted video below is they had problems with the EFI carb because it needed a open manifold , the dual plane upset the EFI.. I’m at a gues that the spray pattern of the injectors requires a single plane. This seams to be a common problem with all the systems atm , they like some plenium..
I doubt many of us could tune a carb as well as these Engine Master guys? But the self learning aspect of the Holley EFI still beat there best tune on the carb, it also beat even there custom tune on the EFI..
i don’t have dyno time to play with, I also don’t have a box full of carb parts to chop and change stuff. ( especially if even the best carb tunners can’t match it!) ...so a self tuning bolt down system appeals..the Fitech or Holley efi system would probably go ok from what I’m seeing? If you can show it’s not suitable please do
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I’m reading a lot about the FiTech, I keep reading bad customer support..bad customer support.. but on eBay there like $900. For something that’s possibly a bolt down and go this is good..
Watched the engine masters Efi verse Carb challenge , the Holley sniper efi beat the Holley HP carb..there was no tuning needed as it self tuned, but they spent a lot of time on the carb to try beat it, tuning as best they could, and it still lost.
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Thanks man..
im thinking this will be a option for me on the new build.
I’m curious to know people have experienced.
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Ok guys,
lets chat about the current bolt on self learning EFI 2 barrel ( or 4 barrel ) ,yes bolt on carb style EFi kits from FiTech and Holley that are out there now.
1st) no I don’t feel like bolting up and connecting crank angle sensors , soldering crap together and everything else...then doing dyno time with a laptop, , selecting injectors.. and so on.. if I wanted to spend 5k+ I’d drop in a 8! ( Or I think I’d just smash in a 2nd hand Barra for complexity ). This basic style of EFI is a simple $800-$900, it’s bolt on and go, this seams a ok upgrade on top of what I got, it comes with a hand controller to fine tune it a little.
Let’s just pretend I want to keep my old 250..as it is, sell my holleys, and just put a efi syle carb on as a replacement for the 350 Holley that’s currently there..keeping it as simple as possible.. this is a Carb replacement..
so I have a couple 350 holleys on the bench, and I’m running a redline tourqer manifold,Extractors and some sort of choppy cam.. (the compression hits my hand from a metre away so it may have other mods..) .. frankly I don’t know what’s inside it, I just want something that will idle clean and runs ok..
So for me, I’d rather just bolt down something that goes well, And it has to do that on top of what I currently have..( whatever that is..) I want it to start cold nice and go ok.. simple with no smell of fuel, popping or rough running..
So, before I waste another $ , I’m thinking just selling my 350 holleys for $100 each on gumtree, then looking at the possibility of just bolting down and running one of these self tuning EFI style 2 barrel carbs from FiTech or Holley on the Redline manifold..
has as anybody run one yet on a 250?
give me your opinions..(and who knows, I may even try run a std style air cleaner housing just to mess around with people that little bit more
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Great topic, wasn’t sure if to run the AU thermos but now I will.
wow 30hp.. that’s a little VW motor worth of lost power!
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There’s something about triple carbs that just looks exotic..special..
they took the e49 charger with triple carbs to Italy and the Italians loved it..
The english e type jags, Ferrari , Aston’s, and others ran multiple carbs set up.. it’s porn..
from a aesthetic point of view it art..
I hope you do go down this route..just so I can check out the pics..
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It would be good if somebody tooled up and made a piece specifically for this seeing as there’s so many head units now using double din..perhaps from fibreglass.. double din is nice.
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I have posted this because I think this is a good option for the ESP and Grand Prix guys , who might want a option on something a little bigger whilst still being respectful’? or anybody looking for something a little classy and unique ?
17”.... old school cool!
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These are another option I spotted recently.. wonder if anybody has run them?
17” advertising with tyres about $1600..
I don’t think there 3 piece? , and I haven’t seen what sizes are available or offsets but they are advertised for Pre-Au falcons 17” in 7.5” and 8.5” wide
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I’ve got a decent stereo ready for new rig , I was running it my other car, the Bluetooth calling and video player is great, a couple 10s with fusion amps , splits and rear coaxial, was pretty good.
Wow I actually had a similar idea about using the 2 plates and that looks good.
i also wondered about using a plastic surround out front to blend it in as well , and trimming it to fit.
is there gaps around your surround?? How’s the fit?
I suspected it would require that heater box cutting back..
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Surely somebody has a modern double din in there car.
hows it look? Was there any problems installing one
pics please!
Efi 2barrel efi kits verse Holley carby.
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Matt, I’m going to run one, I’m done with Carbs, and apart from a nostalgia build I see no reason to not try this.. to think the same people who gave us the Holley carby havnt improved significantly on it in 30years just baffles me..and I will go just the basic 2 barrel system..since everything on my car is old I want to replace the entire fuel system so it’s reliable.
Interesting is I have not found one single video of a carb beating it, not 1! , even after extensive tuning and dyno time..
there’s a few videos on YouTube of boosted cars.
Importantly with that there is a lot of tech videos about doing ignition control, fuel mapping.
but from what I see most just do a basic hook up in 2 hours and go drive.
Its interesting to watch the Steve Morris promotion of this Holley product on one of his big HP monsters..Sniper beat his carb too! and he lets it out the Carb guys are in for it with this..( Steve Morrris is a house hold name in the States)