Pagey
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Just now, gerg said:Yeah sounds good being clevo and all that, very appealing but for similar money, you get US cast & machined iron, a proven design, 4.125" bore option and I would say better support if something wasn't right. I too was excited when I heard about Arrow but then when the word "China" popped up, suddenly I no longer had a hard-on over it.
I dunno, I'm probably talking shit but that's the way I'd go.
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Pretty sure the dart shp blocks are cheaper. Have just been reading about the some issues with the main cap bolts with the arrow block.
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4 hours ago, gerg said:Early pre-production Arrows had air pockets and inclusions in the castings, haven't seen much more since then. I don't know why it's cheaper to go Chinese when we have so much iron here. We used to be the smart country (apparently), but nowdays nobody can be bothered. They just shut down the foundry for Ford, why not keep it open for contracting small jobs like this?
With all that's already invested, it would pay to go with a decent block. Dart has the experience and reputation, and bang-for-buck I think can't be beaten. Available in 4.125 bores for easy cubes, work better with big valve heads. More aftermarket gear available for the bottom end, serpentine conversions are easier with reverse rotation water pumps, general factory accessory mounts, etc.
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Completely agree about the state (or lack there of) of our manufacturing industry. You would prefer dart over arrow ? Was leaning towards arrow as its basically a Cleveland block that's been updated.
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Just now, BGDAV said:Can go 454 on my iron eagle block
They have different ranges for dart
Normal entry level block think handles 1k hp?
Iron eagle 1500
Next level is billet
All depends on your budget
Time.you find a standard good block ud be in it close to a after market block and not be as strong
This is exactly the reason why I'm opting for an aftermarket block, don't see the point wasting time and $$ on a standard block.
Think I'll stick to around 400 cubes but.
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33 minutes ago, BGDAV said:Tmyer is the best after market block out - you get what you pay for
I have a 351w Sb 9.5 dart iron eagle - alot of money in it but good quality product alot of stuff needs tweaking to get it right
205 heads would be to small for 408 depending on cam I'd want 225 chi - scm if you have baller money
Real talk if I did it all over again id of done a barra turbo bang for buck can't beat it - I've got alot of money into the old clevo does what it needs but costs alot
This will mainly be a streetcar so a big dollar block is pointless imo , but you're right about needing bigger heads . Especially being able to go to 440 cubes.
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1 minute ago, gerg said:Early pre-production Arrows had air pockets and inclusions in the castings, haven't seen much more since then. I don't know why it's cheaper to go Chinese when we have so much iron here. We used to be the smart country (apparently), but nowdays nobody can be bothered. They just shut down the foundry for Ford, why not keep it open for contracting small jobs like this?
With all that's already invested, it would pay to go with a decent block. Dart has the experience and reputation, and bang-for-buck I think can't be beaten. Available in 4.125 bores for easy cubes, work better with big valve heads. More aftermarket gear available for the bottom end, serpentine conversions are easier with reverse rotation water pumps, general factory accessory mounts, etc.
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Yeah was leaning towards the Dart shp 9.200 block. Can use my heads and I think my CHI single plain with a little fab work. It's just sump and pump I think are Windsor.
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Chinese, but finished here correct? I don't need anything outrageous, what is the price for these T.Meyer block's ?
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My 408 engine build has taken a turn as my original block didn't sonic to well with some walls coming in @ .90 . So instead of chasing another original block and wasting more money, I have decided to go aftermarket. So my question is which way to go , the arrow which is more a traditional Cleveland or the dart shp 9.200 which is a hybrid type (clevo/windsor). I already have CHI 208 heads and manifold and sump etc. Anyone with some info would be much appreciated
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Was thinking about 6400 at most . My heads have the c3 assembly from chi.
Cheers for the info aswell mate.
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Yes , I will get the complete assembly balanced. Just heard the cast takes more to balance, so it doesn't end up much cheaper. Would you go 4340 or cast ?
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Your right about their dual plane , maybe down the track. Have modeled this build off the nulon xy engine, it uses a single plane. That's why I went that way. Have read the cast cranks take a bit to balance, have you had any experience with them? Cheers
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Anyone else with some info?
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Was thinking as much. So a scat 9000 with h beams and srp forged pistons will be fine? The $800 saving would be nice.
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Hi new guy here , am building a 408 stroked clevo and tossing up between a cast or 4340 crank. I have chi 208 3v heads and single plane manifold, will put a hyd roller 240@.50 .612 lift and a 850 DP . Will go into a xy sedan with a toploader. Will only be a weekend streeter . Is 4340 warrented or would the cast be safice
Which aftermarket block?
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Thanks mate , not a bad price.