PapouGhia 33 Posted August 13, 2019 Is it a leaded or unleaded engine? (pre or post 86') Those valve stem seals, are for leaded engines. 1985 xf ghia mate Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 SPArKy_Dave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted August 13, 2019 Are they the right valve springs?Sent from my CPH1903 using TapatalkThat’s the same part number crow cams have given me so going off there product number I’m pretty sure they are? If not feel free to roast me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted August 13, 2019 It's just that it says they're for E-series (OHC) engines. I don't know enough about E-series engines to know what springs they use, but crossy engines use clevo valvesprings. Might want to clarify before buying.Sent from my CPH1903 using Tapatalk 1 PapouGhia reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt_lamb_160 252 Posted August 14, 2019 The Camtech cam you are talking about is what I suggested. I doubt you will need new pushrods, retainers and locks. I also doubt you will need new valve springs, if you can check the ones you have and they are still ok I would use them. I have used std. pushrods, retainers, locks and springs with their 208deg at 50thou cam for years without issue (although I upgraded them when I added a turbo). Also, the cam would work perfect with 2.77 gears and an auto, so reconsider your gears. 2.92-3.27 would be my recommendation with a T5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted August 14, 2019 Alright so been on and off the phone to quiet afew company’s! All saying the same stuff, only one with a slightly modified cam is camtech, the bloke even told me it’s probably not worth the money putting it in when a stock replacement would be ideal aswell, so verdict, I’m going to find a replacement cam, I’ll either go crow replacement but does that mean I need to grab the dg2 distributer drive? If I go factory replacement where can I go to get that and would I need a dg2 gear with the replacement, cheers all for your help, hope I have also helped afew our trying to change cams. EFI IS A NO GO ZONE WITH CHANGING CAMS DONT BOTHER. Replacement ones are your best bet. I’m still going to buy all the supporting gear but just run the replacement cam with it so atleast I know internals are all freshend up, cheers all. Anyone else able to send me the right springs aswell? Crow don’t have a listing either and don’t seem like they want to help over the phone... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted August 14, 2019 i use that cam gear from crow,but mine is a solid cam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted August 14, 2019 Can someone confirm they are the right springs, I’ve rang crow cam and they are saying they are. Just. Or listed as crossflow for some reason cheers! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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SPArKy_Dave 8,871 Posted August 14, 2019 I think they're just a single spring, with a damper inside them. (for higher rev applications) 1 PapouGhia reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted August 14, 2019 Don't use the crow timing gear set, use ROLLMASTER. Trust me. Jump onto precisions website and just get stock replacement springs, that way you won't need retainers and locks - unnecessary expense. Same with pushrods, stock will be fine and if you can find some xc units you'll have an even stronger pushrods. Forget the unmbrella seals, they are junk. You will got the proper efi valve stem seals in the full gasket set. Yes if you got with a crow stock replacement cam then you will need the dg2 dizzy gear. It's got to do with the hardness of the aftermarket blanks. Standard blanks are junk soft (why the drop lobes at will) hence they can run the junk soft dizzy gear. 1 PapouGhia reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted August 14, 2019 Don't use the crow timing gear set, use ROLLMASTER. Trust me. Jump onto precisions website and just get stock replacement springs, that way you won't need retainers and locks - unnecessary expense. Same with pushrods, stock will be fine and if you can find some xc units you'll have an even stronger pushrods. Forget the unmbrella seals, they are junk. You will got the proper efi valve stem seals in the full gasket set. Yes if you got with a crow stock replacement cam then you will need the dg2 dizzy gear. It's got to do with the hardness of the aftermarket blanks. Standard blanks are junk soft (why the drop lobes at will) hence they can run the junk soft dizzy gear. Cheers mate appreciate it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted August 14, 2019 @ando76 do you think it’s best to get everything from them they do everything... or should I just get everything stock besides the cam and timing chain from crow and roll master? Precision engines Stock pushrods Stock rocker arms kit Lifters Stock Valve springs Gasket kit complete Crow cam Roll master timing chain Dg2 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted August 14, 2019 Up to you mate, but as I said I'd be shopping around. Yep I'd get the dg2 from crow, but I'd source everything else seperately. Crow used to be very good, not so much now, particularly their springs. I still buy my dg2's off them but rarely anything else. The crow timing chain isn't a rollmaster. Just get a genuine rollmaster from eBay. There are a couple of sellers on their with new old stock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted August 15, 2019 The roll master time chain is that the 3 key way one On the way in there today! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted August 15, 2019 i use the rollmaster on my crossy,good quality. 1 PapouGhia reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted August 15, 2019 Yeah, use them on my Clevo's, never had an issue. 1 PapouGhia reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted August 15, 2019 Alright I’ve gone overboard again I’ll send you photos when get a chance, about to order cam but what’s the difference between dg2 and dg2A thanks in advance! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted August 15, 2019 These are all the parts gathered today besides cam and distributor gear until I know which one I need for mine! Cheers all for help. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapouGhia 33 Posted October 10, 2019 After door cards like these, need to make up a good set! Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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