WINDSOR SMALLBLOCK TALK

[deankxf 20,266]

what's the intention for this engine? slap it back together with new rings and bearings or hot it up and fit to XF ute?

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

Not sure atm just getting some ideas,would love that weiand under bonnett blower ,tomorrow i will take it down the machine shop and get ol m8 to clean the block and linish the crank the bores are very good and pistons are in gc,probly will sell it complete with alloy edelbrock or weiand new manifold

[SPArKy_Dave 8,865]

25th June 1991 casting date on the cylinder heads.
What does the block casting date say?

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

the bearings said 1994 date

[gerg 10,871]

im frightend by the price of roller cams for a 302w  ,in the  states the price is not to bad but here OMG.

If I just wanted a nice hop-up without going silly, I'd leave the cam there. The factory specs are actually pretty decent for a silly stocker; lots of numbers bouncing around but 214/210 @ 0.050" is what I can find on the later (post 88) engines. That's what cam companies would class as between a stage 2 or 3 cam in the old days.

If I wanted to chase a bit of power, I'd focus on the heads. A port job/bigger valves or GT40Ps will wake it up, and 1.7 rockers with good valve springs will help too.

Replace the timing set as it's probably worn and might be retarded from factory (Thom?)

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[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

factory specs on the cam ,i came up with 1000rpm to 4700 rpm,and 117 lobe centres ,that e303 ford motorsport cam looks nice,summit does cam n lifter and new spider and new cam retaining plate for $473 us dollars.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

This roller cam is interesting altho its seen its fair kms id say there is no obvious number for the cam but it decodes zfze ? On the bottom of the cam ?

factory specs on the cam ,i came up with 1000rpm to 4700 rpm,and 117 lobe centres ,that e303 ford motorsport cam looks nice,summit does cam n lifter and new spider and new cam retaining plate for $473 us dollars.

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[gerg 10,871]

Those lobes look toast... No way that's going back in

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[Valvebouncer 2,389]

Those lobes look toast... No way that's going back in

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2nd this!! Might as well cut out the middleman and grind it up and put it in the sump.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

hmmmmmmmmmm where is the ford motorsport catolog

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

hmmmmmmmmmm where is the ford motorsport catolog

Also cleaned up the 50 ounce balancer,looks ok.also cleaned the dogbones

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[Valvebouncer 2,389]

You need to buy a parts washer if you are going to keep doing engines!

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

yeah there is a oil slick that runs to the road lol

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

yeah there is a oil slick that runs to the road lol

Rings off and 2nd clean on the piston n rods in my kero bath and trusty brushes you can see ford and trw something 77 on the piston

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[SPArKy_Dave 8,865]

You need an Ultrasonic bath, or a hot wash or something
to get all the carbon off.

 

Currently, I clean carbon off my engine parts with Gasket stripper/carbon clean.
However, I really want to try an Ultrasonic cleaner.

There are some interesting results on youtube.

 

 

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

You need an Ultrasonic bath, or a hot wash or something
to get all the carbon off.
 
Currently, I clean carbon off my engine parts with Gasket stripper/carbon clean.
However, I really want to try an Ultrasonic cleaner.

There are some interesting results on youtube.
 
 

The rockers are interesting they have a small slot or girdle for the heads and just to confirm maybe vb can vary this the wide slot goes to the oil dripper on the rocker yes ?

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[Valvebouncer 2,389]

The rockers are interesting they have a small slot or girdle for the heads and just to confirm maybe vb can vary this the wide slot goes to the oil dripper on the rocker yes ?

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The grooves form a v shape and should line up over the top of one another. In the engine I did 2 of the pedestals were backwards which made an x shape which didn’t allow enough oil in and chewed them out.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

exhaust gaskets appears factory,not sure about head cc ,i went to take one of the springs off and it has a weired 1 piece keeper i couldnt get it out so i just left it for the xperts,exhaust ports are tiny compard to a 2v clevo

[Valvebouncer 2,389]

I can’t remember which is which but the exhaust and inlet have different retainers. From memory that one piece does stuck quite badly. Spray it with wd40 while whacking the top of the valve with a plastic face hammer. I have a huckson hammer, I’ve had it for many years and done many many rebuilds with it.

[NZXD 2,328]

How have I not seen this yet. If you have any other questions let me know.

Love the windsor build.


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[NZXD 2,328]

Just my two cents worth, I wouldn’t really bother upgrading the camshaft if you are retaining those heads, the old E7s fall over at around 4000rpm give or take. They are very restrictive, a set of GT40p heads if will be a good improvement, and as Thom said a good set of headers will help too.

Also for a few extra buck get a set of bolt on roller rockers, plenty of suppliers out there for those.

I’m starting a new build...289 windsor, but with a twist.


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[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

The block crank and other hot tank parts are at the machineshop ready for cleaning im not really sure what im gunna do with this engine cause i really want a 351w lateroller engine from the states 

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

The core plug set arrived and 3rd clean of the pistons is looking much better

The block crank and other hot tank parts are at the machineshop ready for cleaning im not really sure what im gunna do with this engine cause i really want a 351w lateroller engine from the states 

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[Valvebouncer 2,389]

I’m starting a new build...289 windsor, but with a twist.


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As in twin helix twist???

[CHESTNUTXE 7,300]

Twist wedge heads ?