Thom 6,641 Posted September 26, 2018 Hence the reason for my question, you changed the cam which dictates firing order. So is this the same as a late or early Windsor?87/88 was supposed to be the change over year, basically if it's a roller cam engine it should have the 351 firing order Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valvebouncer 2,389 Posted September 27, 2018 87/88 was supposed to be the change over year, basically if it's a roller cam engine it should have the 351 firing order Yeah it’s 1988 build, 1989 Aussie compliance. Not a roller cam but still efi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,641 Posted September 27, 2018 Yeah it’s 1988 build, 1989 Aussie compliance. Not a roller cam but still efi.Must be one of the last of the early firing order engines 1 Valvebouncer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,829 Posted September 27, 2018 I have a copy of the Ford F-truck spare parts manual... It's over 5,000pages long. Ford had so many small variations and options, within the one family of vehicles, it's mind boggling. There are 7-8 engine options alone! On top of that, the ones which came to Australia, seem to have small idiosyncrasies which vary from the US versions. Our F-trucks are about 90% the same, but Ford mixed and matched small parts to suit our market - some suspension bushes, engine accessory parts and so on. (not even counting the RHD dash configuration, with Falcon steering column) It's extremely time consuming, piecing the puzzle together - working out the correct parts to get. I've easily spent over 4hrs, attempting to work out the correct timing cover/water pump, and which bolts go in which locations. I still need to review the bolts again, before ordering anything. They seem to use part Mustang, part Thunderbird, part something else - there are no 'off the shelf' bolt kits to suit the non-serpentine, clockwise water pump, 302 EFI Windsor f-truck timing covers. From the parts manual - the non-serpentine 302 EFI's, use 7 different length bolts in varying quantities, on the pump/timing cover alone. 2 CHESTNUTXE and Valvebouncer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 27, 2018 my persistance has payed off on saturday im going to fetch a 3fifty1 w engine for a $100 in pieces minus cam,shes a roller block and std bore,but it sounds too good to be true imo,anyway i will sus it out when i get there.he also has other roller complete engines,i wont come home empty ,im dying to get my hands on one. 2 Valvebouncer and bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valvebouncer 2,389 Posted September 27, 2018 Speaking of serpentine belts, this may help some people 3 CHESTNUTXE, bear351c and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,260 Posted September 27, 2018 15 hours ago, Valvebouncer said: Speaking of serpentine belts, this may help some people .......or this..? 2 CHESTNUTXE and Valvebouncer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 27, 2018 the rare gilmer snake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 27, 2018 Intake bolts came but no manifold yet maybe the postie stole it for the 5.ol posty van the rare gilmer snakeSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk 2 NZXD and SPArKy_Dave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 I got the 351w not bad for 100 bucks missing a few small things but im stokedIntake bolts came but no manifold yet maybe the postie stole it for the 5.ol posty vanSent from my SM-G570Y using TapatalkSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 I got the 351w not bad for 100 bucks missing a few small things but im stokedSent from my SM-G570Y using TapatalkThe engine came with no roller cam as this one was just thrown in i reckon,and some main bolts as i will get new ones im not really worried maybe someone can de code the cast date on the block ? Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk 1 deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 i gave the crank a light clean just to see if its usable,i think a light 10 thou should clean it up. 1 bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,260 Posted September 28, 2018 Yeah, do it if you can afford to. Always nice to start with straight, flat, bearing surfaces. Although it looks pretty good from the pic, cant just emery tape the journals.? and give 'em the old fingernail test. 2 Valvebouncer and CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 GERG was right these engines are big,no wonder so many go the smaller roller block as it is so light and wack a set of alloys on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 GERG was right these engines are big,no wonder so many go the smaller roller block as it is so light and wack a set of alloys on it.I think i have decoded the block she is a 1994 roller 351w block also rods are very long and grand canyon pistons std bore tooSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted September 28, 2018 Rods are similar length to 302Cs, maybe a tad shorter.Blocks are big but assembled engines are still lighter than a Clevo by 20 kg and heavier than a 302W by the same amountSent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk 1 Valvebouncer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 Rods are similar length to 302Cs, maybe a tad shorter.Blocks are big but assembled engines are still lighter than a Clevo by 20 kg and heavier than a 302W by the same amountSent from my CPH1607 using TapatalkIm still trying to work out if its a 50 or 28 oz balance maybe thom might no perhaps only 302 s are 50 ?Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted September 28, 2018 Nice score F4TE is a roller 351 block. Actually hard to come by, they also split pretty easy just like the 5.0 block. Build a 393 with some alloy heads. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 Nice score F4TE is a roller 351 block. Actually hard to come by, they also split pretty easy just like the 5.0 block. Build a 393 with some alloy heads. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYeah im just getting ideas atm std stroke would still be ok already have a short motor almostSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk 1 NZXD reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted September 28, 2018 Im still trying to work out if its a 50 or 28 oz balance maybe thom might no perhaps only 302 s are 50 ?Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk302s went from 28 to 50 oz after the early 80s. 351s were always 28, start to finishSent from my CPH1607 using Tapatalk 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 Thats good its gunna give me more options302s went from 28 to 50 oz after the early 80s. 351s were always 28, start to finishSent from my CPH1607 using TapatalkSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 28, 2018 hey there is a whole new world out there looking thru windsor parts seems its never ending ,so many combos 1 NZXD reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted September 29, 2018 hey there is a whole new world out there looking thru windsor parts seems its never ending ,so many combos Much love for a windsor. Not to hard to get 450-500hp from the 351w with heads and a cam. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 CHESTNUTXE and Thom reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 8,829 Posted September 29, 2018 30/12/93 or 2003 casting date. 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,260 Posted September 29, 2018 I bought some stuff to remove surface rust and after 10 mins seems to be eating everything but says leave at least 30 mins 30/12/93 or 2003 casting date.Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites