CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 5, 2019 PROBLY have to chop the p/s line and rejoin both of them somewhere near the bottom of engine bay or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,650 Posted December 5, 2019 that split is standard for an au 5.0 power steering pump 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 5, 2019 really ? im still trying to work out how to get around the serpantine set up,like there is no a/c anymore so are shorter belts available ? the big alloy alt bracket is broken will any eb to au one work ? also i would like to put a eb style balancer on it but will a early 5.0L crank pulley still work or are all the 5.0 set ups the same,i just dont need the trigger thing on the au balancer . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted December 5, 2019 Shorter belts are available. If you buy a 'standard style' serpentine belt, it's number is something like 6PK2375, or 4PK0985. 6PK has 6 grooves, 4PK has 4. 2375 is the length in Millimetres if you cut the belt and lay it flat on the ground. Dont forget to add/subtract some extra for the tensioner pulley. Old Vee belts are the same.... 11A0875, or 13A1195. Groove size x Length. 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 5, 2019 ok thanks for that,it looks like au v8 alternator is different to eb style,but i wonder if the big alloy bracket is the same ? thats what i need to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 5, 2019 ok thanks for that,it looks like au v8 alternator is different to eb style,but i wonder if the big alloy bracket is the same ? thats what i need to know.Romac do this one that looks like you can take the trigger wheel offSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,650 Posted December 5, 2019 the front accessories on an au to e series are not interchangeable without swapping everything, if you want to use e series stuff you will have to change all the brackets, alternator, p/steer pump, idlers and tensioners as well as timing cover, water pump and balancer to suit e series, the au front dress is shorter than e series and makes the whole engine shorter by about an inch 2 CHESTNUTXE and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,650 Posted December 5, 2019 Romac do this one that looks like you can take the trigger wheel off Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk why do you want to take it off its not in the way of anything if you use the au stuff 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 5, 2019 why do you want to take it off its not in the way of anything if you use the au stuff Thanks thom im glad i did not hit the buy it now button on the eb bracketSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 7, 2019 Thanks thom im glad i did not hit the buy it now button on the eb bracketSent from my SM-G570Y using TapatalkBut an older style bracket and pulleys like off a xy should work on a late model blockSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,650 Posted December 7, 2019 But an older style bracket and pulleys like off a xy should work on a late model blockSent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalkthey will but you have to swap timing cover, water pump and you need a balancer to suit v belts that also is a 58ounce balancer 2 CHESTNUTXE and NZXD reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 7, 2019 Mine is all old set up, I can use the old brackets as I only have the water pump and alternator to run. I have a generic Windsor alt bracket. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 CHESTNUTXE and Thom reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 7, 2019 they will but you have to swap timing cover, water pump and you need a balancer to suit v belts that also is a 58ounce balancerSurely the eb 50 oz with 4 bolt holes will fit a old school v belt pulley ?Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,650 Posted December 7, 2019 Surely the eb 50 oz with 4 bolt holes will fit a old school v belt pulley ?Sent from my SM-G570Y using TapatalkIt probably will, but the spacing is all wrong 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 7, 2019 It probably will, but the spacing is all wrong This is getting interesting so what do all the 5.o freaks do ?Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,650 Posted December 7, 2019 This is getting interesting so what do all the 5.o freaks do ?Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalkyou have to find the right combination of aftermarket and stock parts to make it work 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 7, 2019 you have to find the right combination of aftermarket and stock parts to make it work Nzxd does yurs have p/s ?Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 7, 2019 i watched a video the other day where a company in america makes a balancer for neutral,28 or 50oz ,3 in 1 balancer,you just keep adding bobweights to it as supplied,might try and find it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 7, 2019 Thom is bang on with the pulley spacings, I have a V belt set up that I haven’t used as crank, water pump and Alt did not line up, so cheated and used a gilmour style. You could muck around with spacers but I couldn’t be bothered, once set up and running true the gilmour is good, I’ve never had an issue and mine gets some big revs. No PS for mine mate. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Thom and CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 7, 2019 i watched a video the other day where a company in america makes a balancer for neutral,28 or 50oz ,3 in 1 balancer,you just keep adding bobweights to it as supplied,might try and find it.This suits 50oz and suits 3 and 4 bolt pulleys. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 7, 2019 man im glad i did not buy all these pulleys n stuff,im gunna have to do more reasearch or stick with the AU style but the build theme was to make the 302 look old school with the blue paint but its gunna look like a jigsaw engine if i put the big chunky alloy brackets on it,im only missing the alt bracket as the one i have is broken but all the others are vg,all engine parts are ready to go oiled and bagged,just waiting on rings n conrod bearings then i can start to fit the bottom end up.you can see at the bottom of the au bracket its broken off cause it had a hit from underneath when the grandson smashed it . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 7, 2019 the p/s bracket is good,even the bearing, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 7, 2019 I’ll send a photo of mine showing the basic set up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,307 Posted December 10, 2019 I’ll send a photo of mine showing the basic set up. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe sump is fkd i think looks like it has had a bump ? The nut wont do up correctly Sent from my SM-G570Y using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXD 2,328 Posted December 10, 2019 Yeah that isn’t right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites