gerg 10,875 Posted May 6, 2022 Sent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk 1 burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 6, 2022 Sent from my CPH2197 using TapatalkGot the crank back looks good from what it wasSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 3 gerg, Outback Jack and deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 6, 2022 Got the crank back looks good from what it wasSent from my SM-A125F using TapatalkBlock is back too,still ain't finished need to buy pistons just deciding on factory dish at 21 cc gives 8.5.1 and flat tops for 50 bucks more at 4cc and 9.5.1 still undecided. Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 Outback Jack and CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,875 Posted May 6, 2022 It's 50 bucks bro, go for the higher comp ones Sent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk 5 bear351c, Outback Jack, deankxf and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,641 Posted May 6, 2022 speed pro do a nice one for $391 on special atm but rings are not cheap,hmmmm. 1 burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,402 Posted May 6, 2022 Yeah, mate.! 9.5 to 1. 2 burnnotice1000 and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 6, 2022 Yeah, mate.! 9.5 to 1.I bought the flat tops by silver lite and ring kit from usaSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 1 gerg, bear351c and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gregaust 332 Posted May 6, 2022 Good move . Flat tops and D3 heads are the go . 2 CHESTNUTXE and burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 6, 2022 Good move . Flat tops and D3 heads are the go . Since the heads had a shave I estimated 90cc ,I also bought a std cam and lifters kit ,this big block stuff is really interesting,I'm not using the factory 429cj sump ,if I can find some other cj stuff that will be the next build.Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 9,295 Posted May 6, 2022 All the engines down south here, seem to be expensive, for unknown sec/hand. What rust dip, does the guy use? 2 burnnotice1000 and CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 6, 2022 All the engines down south here, seem to be expensive, for unknown sec/hand. What rust dip, does the guy use?A type of citrus tank,460s are very hard to find ATM not many bringing them in anymore as costs are sky-rocketing,and our dollar as well.Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 SPArKy_Dave and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 9,295 Posted May 6, 2022 13 hours ago, burnnotice1000 said: Actually 472 I forgot to mention after he checked the block it was already 030 over,so it's Gunnar get a 060 bore which these blocks handle fine ,some even bore them to 4.500,but 060 over is 4.420. Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk How does one calculate the 4.420, from 060 thou? 2 burnnotice1000 and CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 6, 2022 How does one calculate the 4.420, from 060 thou? Std bore is 4.360 so 60 over is 4.420Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 SPArKy_Dave and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPArKy_Dave 9,295 Posted May 6, 2022 37 minutes ago, burnnotice1000 said: Std bore is 4.360 so 60 over is 4.420 Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk Wow even standard, that's a massive bore size! I never knew 460 specs before. 3 burnnotice1000, Outback Jack and CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 6, 2022 Wow even standard, that's a massive bore size! I never knew 460 specs before. Like I said people are boring them even 4.500 for stroker set ups of coarse getting it sonic testedSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 1 1 Outback Jack and SPArKy_Dave reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,875 Posted May 6, 2022 They're a big friggin lump of an engine in the flesh... Just like a Cleveland, only bigger and chunkier in every way.Sent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk 4 Outback Jack, SPArKy_Dave, CHESTNUTXE and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 10, 2022 They're a big friggin lump of an engine in the flesh... Just like a Cleveland, only bigger and chunkier in every way.Sent from my CPH2197 using TapatalkAfter spending a lot of time cleaning this block it's come up quite nice and all it needs now is a bore and hone and 1 more hot wash,I would say 95%of the rust has been removed and well worth itSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 3 Outback Jack, gerg and RM351 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 10, 2022 After spending a lot of time cleaning this block it's come up quite nice and all it needs now is a bore and hone and 1 more hot wash,I would say 95%of the rust has been removed and well worth itSent from my SM-A125F using TapatalkPicSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 3 CHESTNUTXE, gerg and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dvfalcon 368 Posted May 10, 2022 Does any one knows if the sump plug thread on the Cleveland is larger on the later modelsMost the info on the net say it is 1/2inch. The ones on eBay that state size say 1/2 inch. The one in mine is larger? Trying the get a new one. I always thought they were all the same Cleveland crossflow. The socket I use is 3/4. I have another Cleveland her that takes a 7/8 socket?Thanks DaleSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 CHESTNUTXE and burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 10, 2022 Does any one knows if the sump plug thread on the Cleveland is larger on the later modelsMost the info on the net say it is 1/2inch. The ones on eBay that state size say 1/2 inch. The one in mine is larger? Trying the get a new one. I always thought they were all the same Cleveland crossflow. The socket I use is 3/4. I have another Cleveland her that takes a 7/8 socket?Thanks DaleSent from my iPhone using TapatalkYes dale it's only the bolt head that is different I have come across that same thing,thread should be the sameSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 Outback Jack and CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dvfalcon 368 Posted May 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, burnnotice1000 said: Yes dale it's only the bolt head that is different I have come across that same thing,thread should be the same Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk this one must have been tapped out already then as it is bigger thanks 3 CHESTNUTXE, burnnotice1000 and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,402 Posted May 10, 2022 Yeah, different manufacturers had different sizes of hex head. They used to sell a plug stamped OS, for "oversize", but haven't seen one for ages. Yours may have well been drilled and tapped the next size up, 'cos the thread was stripped, look up the sizes for Commodore/Kingswood or maybe British cars. Easy fix would be either a new sump or a helicoil. Cheaper to scrounge the wreckers for the next sized sump plug, I reckon. 3 CHESTNUTXE, Outback Jack and burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dvfalcon 368 Posted May 11, 2022 7 hours ago, bear351c said: Yeah, different manufacturers had different sizes of hex head. They used to sell a plug stamped OS, for "oversize", but haven't seen one for ages. Yours may have well been drilled and tapped the next size up, 'cos the thread was stripped, look up the sizes for Commodore/Kingswood or maybe British cars. Easy fix would be either a new sump or a helicoil. Cheaper to scrounge the wreckers for the next sized sump plug, I reckon. am thinking it may have been made bigger. I put the motor inthe car in a hurry. Did the drive around at the time with not much luck to source new one. here i go again thanks guys 2 burnnotice1000 and CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 11, 2022 am thinking it may have been made bigger. I put the motor inthe car in a hurry. Did the drive around at the time with not much luck to source new one. here i go again thanks guys The 460 gasket set is huge I guess that's why it's soooo expensive,it don't come with the factory steel manifold tray that's why I bought one cheap as I'm using the cast iron manifold,gerg what the hell are all these other gaskets and round cork thing.could be later efi stuff ? As 1 gasket set does both enginesSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 CHESTNUTXE and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted May 11, 2022 The 460 gasket set is huge I guess that's why it's soooo expensive,it don't come with the factory steel manifold tray that's why I bought one cheap as I'm using the cast iron manifold,gerg what the hell are all these other gaskets and round cork thing.could be later efi stuff ? As 1 gasket set does both enginesSent from my SM-A125F using TapatalkFinished the back of the block,now get it back to the mill,also heaps of parts have come including this nice oil slinger from America,also a juicy big single row chain set that has multiple keyways I never seen one of these so I thought to give it a goSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites