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Got the crank back looks good from what it was39304e700ad817eb6b5fb0235327f9d6.jpg61290a0af4fed85ae0dad4521f2d3f8c.jpg

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Block is back too,still ain't finished need to buy pistons just deciding on factory dish at 21 cc gives 8.5.1 and flat tops for 50 bucks more at 4cc and 9.5.1 still undecided. 54d972b8586e57b93940974051d95535.jpg6da42597a5199a67d1a004afa0551abf.jpg9698dcdbd26ee5e5aad0ae7ab5ba3ac1.jpg5f702822837dc2cd76392f88086c6db5.jpg

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Good move . Flat tops and D3 heads are the go . 
Since the heads had a shave I estimated 90cc ,I also bought a std cam and lifters kit ,this big block stuff is really interesting,I'm not using the factory 429cj sump ,if I can find some other cj stuff that will be the next build.

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13 hours ago, burnnotice1000 said:

Actually 472 I forgot to mention after he checked the block it was already 030 over,so it's Gunnar get a 060 bore which these blocks handle fine ,some even bore them to 4.500,but 060 over is 4.420.

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How does one calculate the 4.420, from 060 thou?

 

 

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They're a big friggin lump of an engine in the flesh...
Just like a Cleveland, only bigger and chunkier in every way.

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After spending a lot of time cleaning this block it's come up quite nice and all it needs now is a bore and hone and 1 more hot wash,I would say 95%of the rust has been removed and well worth itfa7ad9a08a9b3ad63e5cb0c0dc476671.jpg4b3c588a885c131a4fad28e40bed9cb4.jpg06553e139d1b1c0e4e9f480c8df5ea80.jpg

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Does any one knows if the sump plug thread on the Cleveland is larger on the later models
Most the info on the net say it is 1/2inch. The ones on eBay that state size say 1/2 inch. The one in mine is larger? Trying the get a new one. I always thought they were all the same Cleveland crossflow. The socket I use is 3/4. I have another Cleveland her that takes a 7/8 socket?
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Does any one knows if the sump plug thread on the Cleveland is larger on the later models
Most the info on the net say it is 1/2inch. The ones on eBay that state size say 1/2 inch. The one in mine is larger? Trying the get a new one. I always thought they were all the same Cleveland crossflow. The socket I use is 3/4. I have another Cleveland her that takes a 7/8 socket?
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Yes dale it's only the bolt head that is different I have come across that same thing,thread should be the same

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Yeah, different manufacturers had different sizes of hex head. They used to sell a plug stamped OS, for "oversize", but haven't seen one for ages. Yours may have well been drilled and tapped the next size up, 'cos the thread was stripped, look up the sizes for Commodore/Kingswood or maybe British cars. Easy fix would be either a new sump or a helicoil. 

 

Cheaper to scrounge the wreckers for the next sized sump plug, I reckon. 

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7 hours ago, bear351c said:

Yeah, different manufacturers had different sizes of hex head. They used to sell a plug stamped OS, for "oversize", but haven't seen one for ages. Yours may have well been drilled and tapped the next size up, 'cos the thread was stripped, look up the sizes for Commodore/Kingswood or maybe British cars. Easy fix would be either a new sump or a helicoil. 

 

Cheaper to scrounge the wreckers for the next sized sump plug, I reckon. 

 am thinking it may have been made bigger. I put the motor inthe car in a hurry. Did the drive around at the time with not much luck to source  new one.  here i go again

thanks guys

 

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 am thinking it may have been made bigger. I put the motor inthe car in a hurry. Did the drive around at the time with not much luck to source  new one.  here i go again
thanks guys
 
The 460 gasket set is huge I guess that's why it's soooo expensive,it don't come with the factory steel manifold tray that's why I bought one cheap as I'm using the cast iron manifold,gerg what the hell are all these other gaskets and round cork thing.could be later efi stuff ? As 1 gasket set does both engines37b77d12fa7adeee0222bead3e2a348c.jpg88ee2323fb59eb3233a84a7fe828e248.jpg

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The 460 gasket set is huge I guess that's why it's soooo expensive,it don't come with the factory steel manifold tray that's why I bought one cheap as I'm using the cast iron manifold,gerg what the hell are all these other gaskets and round cork thing.could be later efi stuff ? As 1 gasket set does both engines37b77d12fa7adeee0222bead3e2a348c.jpg88ee2323fb59eb3233a84a7fe828e248.jpg

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Finished the back of the block,now get it back to the mill,also heaps of parts have come including this nice oil slinger from America,also a juicy big single row chain set that has multiple keyways I never seen one of these so I thought to give it a god923179d00fa8c7739fe61000087a919.jpg45ecd87781bfc53356cb23f32800dd5c.jpg153c34f362d1b28feb243183dc635bbf.jpg3bde760dc79fb6b756bc202e76caa19b.jpg8d87f08b70a07fb687f17d41fe3fde3c.jpg928803cf609fd75c0ee45c6e2df0a8d3.jpg103cc76a6771c7eb035d684aaa39f028.jpgf4e4e181263678f4c99d85329f0ab19e.jpg

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