CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted April 4, 2022 yes these days a 429 is quite cool ,and with all the aftermarket gear available would shit on a stock 460,429/460 use the same rods ,just the piston is a bit taller to make up the difference,hence smaller stroke,back in the day nobody would throw money at a stock 429 ,cause the boss 429 and cobra jet was available in numbers,but nowadays most stroke a 460 to 545 or bigger,there is a whole new world out there of big block gear,as we only ever had the smaller cousins. 1 1 gregaust and deankxf reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted April 4, 2022 I have heard that wherever a Windsor or Clevo will go, a 429/460 will slot in, mounts and all. Whether or not the actual mounts are the same, I dunno, but from XA onwards, big blocks are a bolt-in job (again from what I remember someone saying years ago)Sent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk 3 1 gregaust, Outback Jack, bear351c and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted April 4, 2022 ahh ok im talking about the actual motor mounts,but yes a 460 will bolt in where a clevo or windsor fits,and even a aftermarket choice of pre fabbed headers and xy/xa 460 engine mounts are available off the shelf ,one thing i have noticed a lot of 460 xy mounts for sale on marketplace or e bay must have been the in thing at one point,pity no such exhaust for a 400 is available,mods are needed,been there done that. 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted April 7, 2022 Yeah, was on my bucket list of engines. Always wanted a 427/429 or 460. But things happen, cars get sold, etc etc. No point buying one now, would make the XP sooooooo front heavy. LMAO. Ally intake and heads on 460 would make them about the same weight as a Clevo I reckon. So, perfect for the Nugget.. 4 gerg, Outback Jack, 2redrovers and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 7, 2022 Yeah, was on my bucket list of engines. Always wanted a 427/429 or 460. But things happen, cars get sold, etc etc. No point buying one now, would make the XP sooooooo front heavy. LMAO. Ally intake and heads on 460 would make them about the same weight as a Clevo I reckon. So, perfect for the Nugget.. The 460 is here and it's a nice rusty block ect lol,strange it don't have any lip on the boreSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 7, 2022 The 460 is here and it's a nice rusty block ect lol,strange it don't have any lip on the boreSent from my SM-A125F using TapatalkSeems to be 1973 cast manifold n heads but can't find a date on the block yetSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 gerg and Loonar reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted April 7, 2022 by the numbers it could be anything from a 1971 to 1978 460,but with manifold heads n block matching looks like its a 73 or 74 460,there is 2 nice rusty cranks as well,maybe 1 of them could be a 429 i will check later. 1 burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 7, 2022 by the numbers it could be anything from a 1971 to 1978 460,but with manifold heads n block matching looks like its a 73 or 74 460,there is 2 nice rusty cranks as well,maybe 1 of them could be a 429 i will check later.After a few hrs using power tools sanding off surface rust it's starting to look ok,also 2 cranks,1 cover,1 broken timing cover and a factory sump,when homeboy dropped it off this morning I said hey where is the main caps ? He said fark I left em at home with other stuff to go with it but all is good he is coming down from Toowoomba in 3 weeks time. Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk   3 1 Outback Jack, bear351c, CHESTNUTXE and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted April 7, 2022 doing plenty of reading ,and turns out the exhaust side of the 460 head is very poor flow,after 1972 ford re designed the head but still wasnt that good,my heads are 73 or 74 and are the larger chamber,gerg you were right they are very similar to a 2v cleveland head. 2 Outback Jack and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted April 7, 2022 The top crank does look like it has a shorter stroke than the bottom oneSent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk 1 CHESTNUTXE reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted April 7, 2022 i will give the block a few more cleans ,then take it down to the machine shop and get it tanked and get ol m8 to sus it out it stands atm at 030 so the guy told me ,but i measured it up and looks std to me with some ware ,std bore is 4.360 and my readings flutuated between that and 4.370ish,came with no rods or pistons ,also 060 overbore is fine with many going 090 and 120 over. 2 gerg and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted April 7, 2022 i will give the block a few more cleans ,then take it down to the machine shop and get it tanked and get ol m8 to sus it out it stands atm at 030 so the guy told me ,but i measured it up and looks std to me with some ware ,std bore is 4.360 and my readings flutuated between that and 4.370ish,came with no rods or pistons ,also 060 overbore is fine with many going 090 and 120 over.It could just be a standard worn bore with the ridges shaved to get the pistons out. I hope she cleans up nice, that's a lot of rust in thereSent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk 2 Outback Jack and burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 8, 2022 It could just be a standard worn bore with the ridges shaved to get the pistons out. I hope she cleans up nice, that's a lot of rust in thereSent from my CPH2197 using TapatalkExhaust side is choked with a hump but inlet side is massive,same as manifold,I also wire brushed the mains on both cranks just to get a idea on size and the both measure up at around 3.000 which is the STD size I haven't checked the big ends yet but guessing it's STD.Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 CHESTNUTXE and bear351c reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted April 8, 2022 Yeah I dunno, if you grind that hump out, it actually looks decent. The inlets might look big, but the shape doesn't look great (that's what she said). I reckon the inlets are the restriction here. It looks typically Ford of that era, with a ramp up on the floor and a sharp turn before the throat. Pretty much just 2V Clevos but slightly scaled up.Sent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk 5 bear351c, Outback Jack, 2redrovers and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted April 8, 2022 Yeah true, but........... truck engine.  Pull a house.  10:1 pistons, lazy 400HP. 5 CHESTNUTXE, Thom, burnnotice1000 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 9, 2022 Yeah true, but........... truck engine.  Pull a house.  10:1 pistons, lazy 400HP. Knowing full well these cranks are farked unless throw $350 at em each to clean up I just needed to see what size they were and there might be some hope for this one it's STD mains 3.000 and 2.500 rod so maybe a 20/20 would clean up nice once the rust is gone.i see it says 2yabSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 CHESTNUTXE and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted April 9, 2022 2YAB AND 2YABC are 1968 to 1978 460 cranks. 3 Outback Jack, burnnotice1000 and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 9, 2022 2YAB AND 2YABC are 1968 to 1978 460 cranks.The 2nd crank is STD as well but it's a 2yabc.i also lightly sand blasted a bit just to see if it's worth it and it came up okSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 CHESTNUTXE and Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,310 Posted April 9, 2022 hey is it ok to get them sand blasted cause they are gunna get milled anyway on the journals,or some sort of media ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted April 9, 2022 hey is it ok to get them sand blasted cause they are gunna get milled anyway on the journals,or some sort of media ?Best to blast them first, then get them ground. No good messing your nicely ground journals up with a blasted finishSent from my CPH2197 using Tapatalk 1 burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 9, 2022 Best to blast them first, then get them ground. No good messing your nicely ground journals up with a blasted finishSent from my CPH2197 using TapatalkI just google it and some say don't get it bead blasted cause bits of glass might stay in there but surely you would wash the crank several times b4 final assembly I think sand blasting will be fineSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 9, 2022 I just google it and some say don't get it bead blasted cause bits of glass might stay in there but surely you would wash the crank several times b4 final assembly I think sand blasting will be fineSent from my SM-A125F using TapatalkJust looking at stroker cranks and stroke kits to 545 c.i. there is a million different kits available it's very confusing,seems about $2500 is the cheapest version with 4.500 stroke,but you get everything. 545 c.i is the biggest a STD block can take it seemsSent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 2 Outback Jack and gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 10, 2022 Just looking at stroker cranks and stroke kits to 545 c.i. there is a million different kits available it's very confusing,seems about $2500 is the cheapest version with 4.500 stroke,but you get everything. 545 c.i is the biggest a STD block can take it seemsSent from my SM-A125F using TapatalkYou wouldn't think it's the same block after I spent all day on it ,turns out it is STD bore with plenty of ware 4.374 is the largest bore so she has done a lot of miles Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 5 gerg, bear351c, Outback Jack and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted April 10, 2022 Awesome.Sent from my motorola edge 20 pro using Tapatalk 1 burnnotice1000 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burnnotice1000 588 Posted April 10, 2022 Awesome.Sent from my motorola edge 20 pro using TapatalkI will take it down to the machine shop and get him to take out the old cam bearings and hot tank it,plus dip it in a rust solution tank made of citrus or something as that will clean it up even better .Sent from my SM-A125F using Tapatalk 1 Outback Jack reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
