What to look for when checking out a new motor?

[Defective 1,692]

I'm going to look at a new motor for my van next weekend, it's had a fair bit of work done to it, but it's now out of the car so can't be heard running, although I have seen a video of it running

What can I check to verify its not just a stocker with a price tag?

also, do all t5s have t5 cast on the side of the box? I just wanna make sure it's not a sigma box lol.

This is what's supposed to be done to it.

"20 over acl acl bearings polished crank 494 lift crow cam Aussie speed intake yellow terra roller rockers heads has had $800 spent on it alone 650dp carb with a kit and new bowl extractors double row roll master timing set electronic dizzy"

hes chasing $1500, which I think is fair if it's all legit.

[Mr Polson 10,214]

Best way to identify T5 is reverse location. Be under fifth on T5, and next to first (?? Maybe 2nd?) on Sigma box. Shifters also look different.

Ask to see the motor with rocker cover off should give a reasonable idea on internal condition.

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[Banno 479]

Reciepts for work. If the Bloke is fair dinkum he should be able to take rocker cover off which you could ask cause not like he is driving around with engine in car now.

I know if i was selling a motor I would be taking off cover for a buyer

Like with any motor its a gamble on any good or not

[deankxf 20,266]

T5 gear stick bolts on to the gear shift assy with 2 bolts.. cast iron bell housing, clutch fork on the left side.

sigma box bell housing is alloy, cant unbolt the bell housing without taking it off the motor, gear shift screws in like a single rail from memory..

as for the motor.. i've bought 2 "reco" engines that weren't built right .. one chewed dissy gears till i binned it. the other had the cam wiped probably due to run in proceedure. they were reco'd (bored etc, just fucked... )

buying an engine is risky no doubt, but so is buying a car..

[Defective 1,692]

Thanks guys, sure is risky buying like this. Especially when a stocker Crossy is worth a couple of hundy at best so if the motor isn't what it's supposed to be then it's an expensive aussiespeed manifold and Holley lol.

 

its a near two hour drive each way for me, so I'm taking the trailer with me if it's any good but I'm quite prepared to come back empty handed if it seems dodge.

 

 

[Defective 1,692]

Hope this works, this is the video the owner sent me.

 

 

[Valvebouncer 2,389]

I'm no Holley expert but I thought the largest 2 barrel carb they make is 500cfm. From memory a 650dp is a 4 barrel. That's clearly a 2 barrel in the video.

 

Will yella terra roller rocker fit under the stock valve cover? I couldn't see a spacer but I'm pretty sure there isn't much room under there.

 

[gregaust 319]

1 hour ago, Valvebouncer said:

I'm no Holley expert but I thought the largest 2 barrel carb they make is 500cfm.

Nope . There is bigger  

 

 

 

[Defective 1,692]

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[Defective 1,692]

Blurry pic, but thats taken today.

[Defective 1,692]

2 hours ago, Valvebouncer said:

I'm no Holley expert but I thought the largest 2 barrel carb they make is 500cfm. From memory a 650dp is a 4 barrel. That's clearly a 2 barrel in the video.

 

Will yella terra roller rocker fit under the stock valve cover? I couldn't see a spacer but I'm pretty sure there isn't much room under there.

I always thought you needed a spacer, or aftermarket cover too. One reason why so many use aussiespeed rocker covers.

[Banno 479]

I dont think you will know till you go up and have a look in the flesh then you can decide on motor.

 

 

[deankxf 20,266]

that is the shit gearbox, even if you were going to use it.. you'd need the correct tailshaft for it.. i have a feeling they differ in length. the splines are diffent

 

[Mr Polson 10,214]

Yep definitely not T5.
This is my T5.



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[Mr Polson 10,214]

I always thought you needed a spacer, or aftermarket cover too. One reason why so many use aussiespeed rocker covers.

I thought they fit fine under tin covers but not the EFI alloy one?

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[CHESTNUTXE 7,299]

i'd say yur on a winner with that engine,buy it.

[bear351c 10,270]

Remove rocker cover.

Turn it over by hand. 

Ask for reciepts.

Haggle for the price.

 

[LJDB 103]

I'd be dropping the sump and rocker cover off. Gaskets are cheap and easy to replace. Gearbox and carb are not what he claims from the pics so he rather doesn't know what's he is on about or not telling the truth?

Fresh paint doesn't mean fresh internals

[Defective 1,692]

I'd be dropping the sump and rocker cover off. Gaskets are cheap and easy to replace. Gearbox and carb are not what he claims from the pics so he rather doesn't know what's he is on about or not telling the truth?
Fresh paint doesn't mean fresh internals

Seller has never claimed it's a t5, just that it's a five speed.
And it could still be a 650 two barrel, won't know until I look at it.

He's given me no real reason to doubt him, I'm probably just being a bit paranoid.


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[LJDB 103]

a 650dp is not a 2 barrel. I'd still be taking the sump and rocker cover off, Cheap insurance. I'm not having a go but $1500 is $1500. Xflow's always come up for sale at good prices and pretty much run forever. 

 

[Defective 1,692]

650 dp's did come in two barrel form. Speedway biased carb I think


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[bear351c 10,270]

 

[LJDB 103]

It may be a 650 but not a double pumper. Anyhow the carb on it in the vid is a 2 barrel on a adaptor plate and in the pic its a black 4 barrel carb.

You will just have to go have alook.

At the end of the day if you where to buy an new aussiespeed manifold and  650DP you would be looking a over $1000.

[Defective 1,692]

Yep. Hopefully it all checks out.
The box not being a t5 sucks a bit, I'm kinda hoping it's a four speed lol


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[dex 2,065]

Most probley the 5 speed the factory bunged behind 3.3 motors