Falcman007 100 Posted October 31, 2016 Hi chaps, Well the ED ( 4.0 ) has had a head swap. Reconditioned to at that. With the old oil it didnt smoke AT ALL. Saturday I did an oil change penrite PR 30 extra 10 ( 30-60 ) Took it for a drive no worrys. ( not that far ) Took it to work this morning and it seemed fine but was dark so maybe it smoked. Anyway, after work I started it to show a mate the stereo and after 3-4 mins it blew that much smoke it wasn't funny! Like fucking shitloads! Even missed! Kept blowing! booted it up the road and it cleared. still plenty of power and no smoke. Got it home, let it sit for a few hours started it for 10 mins and NOTHING. the oil was on ADD as I put a litre in the pajero. So the ED got 4 litres. Funny to because the pajero didn't like it either! tick tick tick loud! What the hell? I'm thinking another oil change... It's like the valve stem seals are gone but they are new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirkWhyXF 1,533 Posted October 31, 2016 ED needs 5.5L but i can't see that being a reason for the smoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Polson 10,214 Posted October 31, 2016 Penrite extra ten only applies to the at temp rating of the oil (not the W). So it's actually 20W-60. Did you use an engine oil flush? Have heard some people say it can cause smoking on the next few trips. What was the old oil? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerg 10,871 Posted October 31, 2016 Only takes a teaspoon of oil to fill the street with smoke, looks like your low oil level was just from insufficient refill at service. Could your log manifold have puddled up a bit of oil in the bottom before or while you changed the head? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcman007 100 Posted October 31, 2016 Cheers for the replies guys. The log comment got me thinking...I degreased and washed the engine with the throttle body fully exposed to degreaser and water. And the smoke was white. Not blue... hoping it was water and degreaser sitting in the log 1 gerg reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcman007 100 Posted November 1, 2016 So I started it after work let it idle for a few minutes then had to get the fuck out of there. Started again but no where near as bad. And this time it was blue. Oil. How? The head gas been reconditioned! New stem seals as well obviously so what the hell? I can't think of anything other that oil running on top of the pistons while the car sits for a few hours. What am I supposed to do! Everytime I get some so called qualified mechanic or rebuilder to touch my cars they either do no better that me or simply stuff it up. Spent a fortune on on the head, rebuild, cam chip etc and I get this shit. I can see why people say leave it stock! It's all money once you open it up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,260 Posted November 2, 2016 Have you gone back to the Head jobber.?? Could be a cracked valve guide, valve not seating correctly, stem seals missing, any number of things. Maybe do a compression test.? Hard to diagnose over the Internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcman007 100 Posted November 2, 2016 Have you gone back to the Head jobber.?? Could be a cracked valve guide, valve not seating correctly, stem seals missing, any number of things. Maybe do a compression test.? Hard to diagnose over the Internet. Yeh it is. It's a weird one. i'm thinking PCV valve now as the hose is full of oil and possibly puddling in the lag manifold. It has plenty of grunt, no noises and zero smoke even when giving it hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcman007 100 Posted November 2, 2016 it smoked again today but even less again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broken-wheel 659 Posted November 5, 2016 use 10-30 oil 60 is stupid heavy and so is 30, no idea why you listen to the supercheap/autobarn idiots or idiots on forums who say use thick oil because your engine is old, I use 0-30 in a fuckign 30 year old engine and it sings, no smoke, no oil drop and perfect oil pressure if you are in tassie then it gets cold there in the mornings and with 60 oil in the morning it's fucking insane, let alone 30 cold, it's like honey ... it's a good way to fuck up your engine ... I think ford recommended 25-40 or something, never heard of a manufacturer recommending 60 weight oil ... ever 1 Falcman007 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Polson 10,214 Posted November 6, 2016 Penrites' "60" is actually equivalent to 50. I ran 30-70 in my utes old motor for a while, in Tassie, it definitely preferred it to the 20-50 it used to have. The wagon now has "Classic Light" in it, viscosity of that is 20W-60 (penrite), hasn't had an issue. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk 1 Falcman007 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drew442 67 Posted November 22, 2016 That oil is wrong. Drop it and put 5.5L of something lighter in it. I run 10w-30 in the 3.9 and I've run 0w in crossflows before. The issue sounds like PCV. Make sure the valve works and was plumbed correctly after the head was changed. 1 Falcman007 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outback Jack 6,352 Posted November 23, 2016 If you want good oil.. Penrite HPR 10 It's 10w-50... sohc 4.0's love it.... heaps of zinc. My Xg takes 5L bang on the money inc filter. Not cheap oil but fully synth is great stuff. I agree 20 and 30 weight too much... 15 max... Jack. Sent from my GT-S7583T using Tapatalk 1 Falcman007 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcman007 100 Posted November 23, 2016 Thanks guys. I've always used heavy stuff without drama. It has stopped smoking now. I'll go thin then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drew442 67 Posted November 24, 2016 Penrite HPR5 works well too. You can often get it for ~$40 for 6L too if you keep your eye out. The heavy stuff is robbing you of power and fuel economy. 2 bear351c and Falcman007 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites