SPArKy_Dave 8,863 Posted October 25, 2016 Why not ask about tyres for the original wheels too, then make your choice from there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
user272 526 Posted October 25, 2016 Nothing worse than doing a job twice (sway bar ref). Still looking forward to seeing this car mate, impressed with the progress. 1 SirkWhyXF reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 25, 2016 Why not ask about tyres for the original wheels too, then make your choice from there? because I'm not interested in putting the 12s back on any time soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 25, 2016 Nothing worse than doing a job twice (sway bar ref). Still looking forward to seeing this car mate, impressed with the progress. yeah i should've known about the sway bar. just wasnt thinking when i fitted it. its a pain to get in, you have to use a ratchet strap to pull it together to go into the control arms. its like a giant spring. when i bought this, i originally said id sit on it, because the XF was priority. but the problem is, I can't permanently keep it at home, like the XF, due to space. so theres a good chance this will end up at a mate's house, so its not fair on him having it there, unable to be driven. once i got started on it, it just snowballed. so yeah it happened pretty quickly. so the hard work is done (providing it passes its inspection on thursday) its just a matter of doing all the small stuff i want to add. extractors, twin barrel carb and manifold, corner bumpers. but all in good time 2 SirkWhyXF and user272 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 25, 2016 i should add, the car is driving quite well now the alignment is done. has a funny vibration causing the steering wheel to wobble. i swapped the wheels front to back, no good. I'm thinking that the 4 wheels are just that out of whack that no matter what they are causing a vibration. its at its worst at 60km/h. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
user272 526 Posted October 26, 2016 Is the vibration instant or does it get worse as you drive? Could be the brake system applying slight pressure and heating up the brakes, it happened to my old BA and shook the whole car, that was discs though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 26, 2016 Im still leaning towards the wheels. I swapped them from to back and the vibration through the steering wheel has dulled down, however its still there a touch. I feel like it is now coming from the back. Doing hwy speeds its smooth. It wont be front brakes, they have freshely machined discs and new pads fitted, however i didnt touch the drums on the back, and there is a good chance they arent great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted October 26, 2016 Bent rim.?? Esky looks awesome, good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Defective 1,692 Posted October 27, 2016 Flat spotted tyres from sitting maybe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 27, 2016 Im still thinking its a wheel, or multiple wheels. I spent all day driving the car today, to the panel beaters (ill explain in a moment), then to the workshop where i was getting the roadworthy cert done. anyway, its driving ok, but I've had a couple of set backs, which are a bit a upsetting so the first set back. The mechanic won't even look at the car, because one of his things to be fixed was some damage to the rear lower sills. I haven't had it fixed the damage, because its a pain in the ass to fix, and its not structural or integral. (this is why i went to see the panel beater this morning to have it assessed) So whats happened? The factory jack, has a long pin that goes through one side and out the other of the chassis rail, then a crank handle to lift it. Some dumb ass in the past has lifted the car using the factory jack, but instead of going into the chassis, they have done it directly under the sill, on both sides. as a result, the sills have been squished level with the floor. The roadworthy guy originally thought it was a lift point for the car, until i got stuck into him, and is determined that its fucked the floor, and he won't pass the car until i have had the sills pulled down. Now, after talking with the panel beater, he has said its not integral, not structural, and it should not be a road worthy issue. So i have to sort something out with that, which is just shit. the second set back, is something is up with the front struts. I have this issue, where doing low speed sharp turns, I'm getting this clunking in the front end. It turns out, for whatever reason, the coil springs are turning on the struts. the noise I'm hearing is the springs being loaded up, then releasing as they go back into place...the noise has a real "twang" to it, like a spring would. I think I know what the issue is, and Im hoping to be able to fix it in the car, by compression the shit out of the coil springs, and unbolting the strut tops. if i can't fix it in the car, the struts have to come out, and its not a nice job. These are fixed McPherson struts, which means i have to crack the ball joints and tie rod ends again to remove the struts from the car Anyway, all part of playing with old cars. looks like it will be sometime yet before i get it on the road after all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,389 Posted October 27, 2016 Can you show us a couple of pics of the sill damage? I might be able to help. Ticks me off with rwc that mechanics are asked to make judgements on things outside their qualifications. Its like asking me to tell if your big end bearings are shot by listening to the rattle in the aerial. Most don't have a clue what the regs actually are let alone what's a safety issue. 4 Panko, deankxf, SirkWhyXF and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 27, 2016 so you can see the factory jacking point in the background where the rubber bung is. the sill should be level across there, with the half moon cut out lining up wiht the factory jacking hole in the chassis. the road worthy guy reckons its pushed the floor up, on the other side of the sill, between the sill and chassis. this is not the case, the floor naturally rises behind there anyway, but he is convinced this damaged has caused the floor to go up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirkWhyXF 1,533 Posted October 27, 2016 Road worthy guy's a fucking egg head. 1 Panko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,389 Posted October 28, 2016 I'd honestly look for another roadworthy guy, this one is a fkwitt 2 deankxf and Panko reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 29, 2016 ok so there has been a development in regards to the sill damage, that goes against me apparently VicRoads licensed vehicle testers recently had to do a compulsory "upgrade" course to keep their license. as part of that course, VciRoads is cracking down on any under body/carriage damage. I did go see another vehicle tester, the guy who machined the brakes and made the new brake hoses, and he explained it in detail the reason it has be fixed. so yep, very very annoying, but it seems i no longer have an option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
user272 526 Posted October 29, 2016 Nothing like a nice kick in the guts for the long weekend... Sorry to hear that mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,389 Posted October 29, 2016 From the photo, you were fixing it anyway, just a matter of when. It shouldn't have been a roadworthy item, no rust and the damage isn't severe enough to cause a failure by driving down the road or to even significantly alter the transmission of force in a crash. They send a rep from each garage to do a half day lunch meeting to "explain" the new rules on what they are looking for. They don't understand because it's over their heads and when they go back to work on people's cars, they overreact and hit everything with the ban stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 29, 2016 Yeah so a bit of a set back. The most disappointing thing is my permit will run about before i get it registered. So when i go to get it checked, and registered i can either run the risk of running around on an out of date permit, or buy another permit. Oh well. Redrover, yeah they do seem to take things out of proportion. Its so annoying that a panel beater, and a couple of guys from RS Owners Club Vic that i met last night, all said it shouldnt be a rwc issue. Sure the law is the law, but these guys know the cars, because they either own them or have worked on them in their panel shop. 1 2redrovers reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,266 Posted October 30, 2016 out of date unreg permit = unreg = $780 fine.. (permit is much cheaper) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,389 Posted October 30, 2016 Misuse of permit (decided by cop who pulls you over) 960 I think it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,266 Posted October 30, 2016 Misuse of permit (decided by cop who pulls you over) 960 I think it was. yeah, need to have the place you are going to "booked in" or driving "home" from purchase is about the only way to use it safely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2redrovers 21,389 Posted October 30, 2016 And because panelshops aren't licenced vehicle testers, technically you can't drive to /from them either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,266 Posted October 30, 2016 And because panelshops aren't licenced vehicle testers, technically you can't drive to /from them either i drove mine to be repaired for VIV in the past.. but thats something i'd be saying WTF if i got fined for it.. i dont recall seeing the joint needing to be licenced tester on the permit.. Unreg permits are intended to cover situations such as preparing an unregistered vehicle for registration.. should be able to get any repairs done to my understanding.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panko 2,480 Posted October 30, 2016 Yeah dean unreg permits are for exactly that. Preparing a vehicle for registration. That is all the talk about on the website. Last thursday, i was driving the car around all day. On the way from my place up to Keilor east, then to Campbelfield, i saw 2 police cars, 3 police bikes (the bikes were all together), sure it made me nervous haha, but not one of them bothered to even give me or the car a glance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Polson 10,214 Posted November 1, 2016 Yeah so a bit of a set back. The most disappointing thing is my permit will run about before i get it registered. So when i go to get it checked, and registered i can either run the risk of running around on an out of date permit, or buy another permit. Oh well. In Tassie, you can drive to a rego/roadworthy inspection and back without a permit. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
