slydog 7,873 Posted December 10, 2015 What sort of cfm are these webbers ? 200?each Depends on chokes and butterfly but a 50mm with a 46mm choke x 3 = 1160cfm to 1320cfm roughly and depending on what you read.But thats more than your average Dominator on a 250 cube 6cyl. But a 650DP is too big for a xflow they say,go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted December 10, 2015 Depends on chokes and butterfly but a 50mm with a 46mm choke x 3 = 1160cfm to 1320cfm roughly and depending on what you read.But thats more than your average Dominator on a 250 cube 6cyl. But a 650DP is too big for a xflow they say,go figure. Yes - those that have no clue on the actual configuration of these engines and therefore its ability to pull lotsa air Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 10, 2015 What about 6 nice fuel inj trumpets on a Webber crossy manifold,anyone tried that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted December 10, 2015 What about 6 nice fuel inj trumpets on a Webber crossy manifold,anyone tried that ? Yes they have... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted December 10, 2015 What about 6 nice fuel inj trumpets on a Webber crossy manifold,anyone tried that ? And proof that it does work, the guy I bought my roller cam crossflow off had a 650 mighty demon carby and ran 11.8 Switched to efi with trumpets and ran 11.5 Nice little gain there 1 slydog reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wagoon 2,429 Posted December 10, 2015 Thats the equal best thing about this forum, pretty much every crossflow configuration has been done by the people here. The other best thing about this forum is that its full of really good people that are happy to help and share their hard earned knowledge...... for free. 4 slydog, bear351c, ando76 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broken-wheel 659 Posted December 11, 2015 unless you chase 1/4 mile numbers stay with the 650/750 DP, they do work well on the street and they sound proper old school, easier to tune and maintain and cheaper in the long run, no need for special socks or filters and shit if you daily it in my books unless you want the absolute maximum then i'd rather stay with the 4bbl, nicer sound around town etc. the TQE engine has too much stroke to make the Weber sound nice but enough stroke to really suck through a 4bbl to make them sound absolutely fucking nice around town each to their own thou, you can run 11's on 4bbl with is more than enough for the street and way more than enough you can put down on street rubber on the street Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 11, 2015 With the large open 4 barrel aussie speed manifold has anyone tryed the plenum pig ! i assume it gives a bit better low down power and without it big power over 6000rpm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted December 11, 2015 You think the aussiespeed has a big plenum - get an old cain - now that's huge. I never tried one on my meth motor and tbh it was a big enough motor not to warrant one. If you had a pebble flicking cam and were running a 4 barrel (don't know why you would) then the insert might help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted December 11, 2015 With the large open 4 barrel aussie speed manifold has anyone tryed the plenum pig ! i assume it gives a bit better low down power and without it big power over 6000rpm Weber out torque any 4 barrel. Thats why circuit cars use them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRO250 1,506 Posted December 11, 2015 Most crossy that will turn to 6k will have little under 2500 anyway so there would be no real need for something with more lower down useage but we ran a 600 and a 4barrel manifold on my mates ute it was still the same as the webber in its low end but had more in the mid higher end of things not that it would go much past 4600 webers do not make much noise if your just driving, and the more you give it the more cats it sucks in and the better the screaming cat getting sucked thru a straw sounds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 12, 2015 what about making a sheet-metal manifold to run 3 x 350's, feeding 2 cyl's per carb ,or 2 x 500's feeding 3 cyl's each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slydog 7,873 Posted December 12, 2015 Back to topic in this one please... 2 winton and ando76 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 15, 2015 could a small dent in my alloy EB tailshaft cause any vibration ? or unbalance cause the vibration demon has come back to haunt me but its only at around 30kph then dissapear's ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bear351c 10,270 Posted December 15, 2015 If you have removed it, put it back in exactly the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 15, 2015 i might try to rotate it 180 deg as said before,because this tailshaft was not in my car originaly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 15, 2015 yeah i tried that before in a post i wrote ,the diff shop said make sure your pressures are identical in a tight LSD unit ???? but i think its the tailshaft so i will rotate it . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ando76 4,354 Posted December 15, 2015 Alarm bells. Dent in alloy tailshaft equals big trouble ahead. It will let go if pushed to hard. The one reason we don't run them in speedway cars. Just to dangerous. Once they are dented its throw away in a high torque application. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 15, 2015 ok there is plenty at the wreckers i will grab another one,but its only behind a stock crossy at the moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 28, 2015 ok i have found 2 c4's to suit a crossy,so correct me if im wrong ,they are 24 spline,and of the late 60's vintage,so from what i have read a 157 tooth flywheel and a smallblock 289-302 windsor converter suit's yeah ?my std starter motor should fit i hope ? what other things do i need to know about the c4 6cyl, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broken-wheel 659 Posted December 28, 2015 mine came out of an XD so not sure but it is a 157 tooth fly, not sure about the spline as i never used them before, case fill or pan fill? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 28, 2015 IM PRETTY sure the xd ones are 26 spline and the same as any other c -4-10 to suit clevo's ,from research after 1970 all have the 26 spline input but finding a xd c4 is very hard . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
broken-wheel 659 Posted December 28, 2015 yeah i think it's a post 70's box, waited for about a year to find one at the right price, the only crap thing is the bell is steel not alloy so it weighs a ton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CHESTNUTXE 7,299 Posted December 28, 2015 ALL the bellhousings i have found so far are cast iron,but the tranny shop says they were alloy ? so someone should no this,i dont no why i cant just put the 6cyl bellhousing on a later c4 or maybe you can ? the bell weighs 13kg cast iron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites