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Snowflake rims - Identification.

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13 minutes ago, dvfalcon said:

Caps can not sit flush on some non machined esp wheels

Dale

Sorry Dale, are you saying the repro caps don't actually sit flush on some genuine esp wheels? Or that even the original ford caps did not sit flush on some of the wheels?

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What about an on car pic from a bit of distance?

So what were they originally ea or xe/f ghia?

Also is it just the angle/light or is the paint colour slightly different on the caps and wheels?

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5 minutes ago, SirkWhyXF said:

Sorry Dale, are you saying the repo caps don't actually sit flush on some genuine esp wheels? Or that even the original ford caps did not sit flush on some of the wheels?

I am sure the repo ones are all good, ben would not release them I Would buy them If I needed them. What I am saying I have seen genuine esp wheels and caps that don'T sit flush?

Dale

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Hey Action Man

I have set of snowies I want to make just like yours.

I am in Mexico but as a guide how much does the machining cost ?

and where is it done, a specialty wheel place ?

And where is the gold e.s.p repo paint from mate ? 

What size are the tyres 225 x 60 x 15 ?

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yep 225 60 is the perfect size for these rims,around $70 per rim for machining,depending on where you go and call ben from global trim in melbourne or google trimmaster ,same place,he makes the gold paint as well absolutley perfect match esp gold,i buy heaps of stuff of him .

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1 hour ago, dvfalcon said:

I am sure the repo ones are all good, ben would not release them I Would buy them If I needed them. What I am saying I have seen genuine esp wheels and caps that don'T sit flush?

Dale

Ok cool, thanks Dale thats what i thought you meant.

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17 hours ago, CHESTNUTXE said:

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That's a machined rim, have a look at the spokes.

ESP rims are as cast, so are ZL sportsman, for all those that want to mock up a set.

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That's a machined rim, have a look at the spokes.
ESP rims are as cast, so are ZL sportsman, for all those that want to mock up a set.

Just to clarify, are you referring to the face being machined flat like it was on a lathe?

I'm assuming they did this towards the end when the casting got a bit daggy?

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I'm saying that all snowflake wheels have a machined rim, and the surface of the spokes were machined aswell on all snowflakes, except on wheels for ESP's and Sportsman ZL Fairlanes, not because they were getting " daggy ", even "82 Ghia wheels were machined, ZL's were toward the end of the wheels life, yet weren't machined.

so, if you want to have a set of gold snowflakes, just like a ESP, either buy a set of ESP rims, and get them recoed, or, find a set of Sportsman rims, and paint them gold.

dont do what chestnutxe did, that looks crap, but if you want to go that way, get the face that the center cap sits on machine down so the cap sit level with the spokes, but that will then create other issues with how the cap holds to the rim.

it'll still look crap though.

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Got a few questions for those with more experience than I.

What's the best way to go about stripping the snowies, sand blasting, soda blasting, or something else?

Also what primer is best to use on the alloy? I'll pick up some plastic primer for the new caps. What clear coat do people recommend to finish over the gold? And paint first, machine lips second is the way to go yeah? 

 

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I'm by no means a professional, but I water/sand blasted mine with a Karcher attacment (see thread). Came up really good but you'll have to polish the rim again as the blasting dulls it. Start with 600 wet & dry, then 1500, then metal polish. I left mine with a steel wool finish as I didn't want a chrome look.

 

I only went rattle-can acrylic on mine and the finish hasn't lasted well. I'd suggest going 2-pack for the long-term.

 

I polished first, then masked off the rim part to do the centre.

 

It shouldn't matter that the wheel is alloy, as long as the surface is rough enough for the primer to grab (ie not polished). This is a problem when clearcoating a polished rim as the surface is too smooth for the paint to grab. You'll probably have it peeling off in a year or two. For that I don't have a solution except don't polish but instead leave a brushed finish like i did.

 

http://www.ozfalcon.com.au/index.php?/topic/1600-K'archer-Wet-Sand-Blasting:-a-review-(sort-of)

 

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Thanks for the reply gerg.

I don't think i'll bother clear coating the polished lips i'll just leave them and polish regularly.

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4 hours ago, Valvebouncer said:

Kris, if your interested there is a powder coater in Blacktown who specialises in wheels. He quoted me $500 to blast and powder coat 4 wire spoked wheels for my mgb. I’ll see if I can find his details

 

Edit:

http://www.advancedpowdercoating.com.au/

 

I wonder how he'd go with getting the esp gold colour? I've already bought two cans of the gold paint from global trim too. 

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