Ball joints for Xf genuine ford or aftermarket?

[mattymc 30]

I'm looking at doing my upper and lower ball joints soon and wondered what brands people are having a good run out of?.

 

Other than genuine ford items is there a good quality aftermarket brand?.

 

Is there a certain brand to stay away from?.

 

Hope all that makes sense.

[Mr Polson 10,214]

Aftermarket, genuine Ford ones are (I think) riveted in - unless that's only the originals.

 

TRW is a good aftermarket brand, there's also one call WASP I think, or Protek, they're the ones I know of.

[mattymc 30]

Cheers for the info Mr Polson. I did not realise that the factory ball joints were riveted in. I've heard of TRW and Protec before. Not so much Wasp. Will have a look into the different brands.

 

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[Mr Polson 10,214]

I have used protec and trw before.

 

My ute was kitted out with Protec, and my wagon had TRW.

 

The utes ball joints and tie rods have lasted about 20,000kms, and showing signs of wear already.

 

Wagon after 10/15,000kms has no signs of wear on ball joints or tie rod ends.

 

Only advance of Protec is they came with grease nipples, the TRW ones didn't. TRW was also more expensive, but I'd pay that extra to have them last like they are.

[XTREME KARTS XF 1,212]

I used TRW in the XD, ford used TRW from factory TRW bits are pricey but i reckon that they are worth it.

[SPArKy_Dave 8,863]

555 were good, till they stopped supplying them.

Roadsafe distributed them. They still do 555 tierod ends.

[dizzy616 183]

wasp are cheap but their allright haven't had a problem with them. stay away from suzukisupers shit on ebay too

[SPArKy_Dave 8,863]

The TRW of today, are not what they were back then.

[XTREME KARTS XF 1,212]

555 were good, till they stopped supplying them.

Roadsafe distributed them. They still do 555 tierod ends.

 

555 Japan if im correct?

[Mr Polson 10,214]

Is road safe the brand that comes in orange and black boxes?

 

If so I've used a couple of their bits too, lower ball joints in the wagon and a pitman arm in the ute, they both are holding up well.

[gregaust 319]

I've used Wasp a few times have been good

[Campo 869]

Mines got wasp in it (came with car when i got it ready to be installed) and havent had any dramas

[mcfly94 169]

trw is probably the best on the market.

hence there a bit dearer

[BigCav 464]

MOOG out of a Mercury is the BEST you can get, you just cant get them here

 

trw/555/roadsafe paja are the best in aus at the moment, Wasp is a close 4th, for cheap stuff they have been good, trw and 555 are getting hard to find, roadsafe is available almost anywhere

 

most of the time i use roadsafe

[mattymc 30]

Some awesome advice guys thanks. Will have to see what I can get easily.

 

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[Mr Polson 10,214]

I got all my TRW stuff from Repco.

[BigCav 464]

was it the proper greaseable stuff or the newer sealed units?

[Mr Polson 10,214]

The newer sealed units, I've found it quite difficult to find anywhere that can get in the greaseable parts. 

[BigCav 464]

they are hit and miss with supply, i sell a few hundred a month and some all from the same suppliers, some come in sealed, the next week they come in greaseable, really annoying when a customer requests a certain type as you can never gaurantee supply

 

wasp i found to be more oftern then not greaseable but who knows these days, i last looked into it probably 2 years ago

[Ando81 2,949]

Has anyone used the red balljoint boots that you can buy on eBay? They say that they are better than standard rubber boots. I fitted some wasp balljoints 2 years ago and 3 out of 4 are fine but the bottom right has split and started to groan when I turn. I've just greased it and will replace it but might get a kit of red boots for $75 to replace the other 3 boots before they are shagged.

[agentkiwi 110]

I've got a set but haven't fitted them yet because I replaced the ball joints less than 5000km ago. They look & feel the goods, doubt they'll split like the rubber ones do. I'd say go for it.

[Ando81 2,949]

Cheers mate, noticed this arvo that 2 are now split so I best order some.

[Lott 35]

http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/infosheets/LVVTA_Info_05-2004_Falcon_Balljoints-Aug_2004.pdf

 

 

 

Brand (Supplier) 4-bolt (early model) 3-bolt (late model)
Ford OE (no longer
available)
OK OK
Quinton Hazell QH (Ford) OK, has about 2mm shaft
clearance when contacting
bumpstop
OK, has about 2mm shaft
clearance when contacting
bumpstop
CTR (Titan Auto Parts) Similar or better than QH Similar or better than QH
WJ Automotive (AutoStop) X Binds while 25mm
suspension travel remains
before bumpstop is reached
Binds while 25mm
suspension travel remains
before bumpstop is reached
Silverline (Repco) X Binds while 25mm
suspension travel remains
before bumpstop is reached
Binds while 25mm
suspension travel remains
before bumpstop is reached
‘Camelot’ (George Stock &
Co) marked ‘TRANS’
X Binds while 25mm
suspension travel remains
before bumpstop is reached
Binds while 25mm
suspension travel remains
before bumpstop is reached
555 (Titan Auto Parts) Example not found Example not found
The three

[SPArKy_Dave 8,863]

Excellent find good sir.....

 

I've been wondering about this for years, but I think an Australian comparison test is in order.

 

I might do just that in the near future, to see what brands are dangerous, and which brands work.

 

http://www.lvvta.org.nz/documents/infosheets/LVVTA_Info_05-2004_Falcon_Balljoints-Aug_2004.pdf

 

 

555 -

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Upper-and-Lower-Ball-Joints-OE-Style-/260756305446?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item3cb6497626

[bear351c 10,270]

Good luck finding anyone with original riveted ball joints.  Looks like the 'new' ones have a raised cylinder bit around the ball.? Excuse my crude photoshopping,

 

 

This might be something to look for when buying some.