The tyre clearance v's bump stop thread

[SPArKy_Dave 8,868]

I'd do a little experiment first. Measure the height of the guard as is, then remove the bump stop altogether and remeasure. If it's a significant drop you may need to change the springs as you will still have stuff all travel with shorter bump stops.

 

 

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It'll probably run out of shock travel first...

 

What I did with the Koni's, is take them out, fully compress them, then I marked a ring around the shaft with a whiteout pen.

Then I refitted and noted how much travel the shock had left.

 

That will show, if you need shock tower spacers or not.

 

 

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

The dood at the suspension shop said they will suit low and super low springs,so i guess there is gunna be a few cm more in the shock,dave what about those spring packers that are around 1cm in height would a set of those help in the front instead of buying taller springs

[SPArKy_Dave 8,868]

The dood at the suspension shop said they will suit low and super low springs,so i guess there is gunna be a few cm more in the shock,dave what about those spring packers that are around 1cm in height would a set of those help in the front instead of buying taller springs

 

Quite possibly...

 

Never believe what the suspension shop dude says......

the fact they sold you Ultima's for an ESP replica build, is an insult to such an awesome car.

I'd be surprised if they have much if any travel left.

 

Have you got a pic showing the top of the shock absorber body, with the car on the ground?

Any luck getting the part number off the springs?

 

My XG ute springs are King Springs KFFL59 - ordered from Kings powdercoated black - for the stealth look. (cost me $12 extra from memory)

And so I didn't have yellow clashing with my nice red Koni's.

Since they're in an XG, they sit lower than XF, as the OHC's and 4spd auto's, are a heavier driveline.

[Valvebouncer 2,389]

It'll probably run out of shock travel first...

 

What I did with the Koni's, is take them out, fully compress them, then I marked a ring around the shaft with a whiteout pen.

Then I refitted and noted how much travel the shock had left.

 

That will show, if you need shock tower spacers or not.

 

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That's scarier than sitting on the bump stops. I'd do as Dave suggests.

 

 

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[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

yeah the rears are kffl -27 and front kffl-0 front v8 xe super low or 50mm

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

i actually fitted them when the crossy was still in there ,and first time out driving i could notice how much better it was but that was with the v8 springs ,but now the clevo is in with the fmx it weighs a tonne.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

There aint much travel there maybe 1-1/2 cm  

[Valvebouncer 2,389]

Bugger

 

 

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[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

i cut 3cm of the bump stop to start with.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

Well i have now another 2.75cm of travel now by the lie detector which valvebouncer said to measure before i do any cutting  

[Valvebouncer 2,389]

So just to clarify, you only have 1 1/2cm shock travel. Left with the bump stop taken out?

In the other photo with the two marks, is that one with the bump stop before cutting and one after?

 

 

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[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

i spoke to soon,i took the car for a run and its back to normal height ,but i have clearance on the bumpstop now,maybe just the shock was playing tricks ?

[SPArKy_Dave 8,868]

It sat higher, because you jacked up the car, and the weight was off the suspension.

Takes a run around the block to re-settle.

 

Was that shock absorber pic, taken at the normal height, or the higher height?

Take another bumpstop clearance pic for us too.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

It was taken at the normal height with the weight on the wheel before anywork was done,its the same now,so im guessing some spacers are in order ?

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

plenty clearance now

[SirkWhyXF 1,533]

it looks like you now have no bump stop, or is that just the angle playing tricks on my eyes?

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

nah there is 2cm at least there just a bad angle,i bounced it and its not bottoming out.

[Valvebouncer 2,389]

How much travel do you have left in the shock?

Are you sure it's not going to bottom out before you hit the bump stop?

 

 

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[Banno 479]

Havent done many K's yet and there is still more settling in. It will drop a little more yet. Believe me it will.

Spacers will help with springs and on shock mounts I reckon.

 

What was the measurement from the top of tyre to guard with your car? I have lows and I have just on 4 cm from top of tyre to bottom of guard.

Kings springs have disclaimer on these springs for super and ultra. I suppose they want to cover themselves.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

you can buy 10mm spacer for the towers and 10mm spacer for the spring=$200 odd or just put a set of lows in there =$150 so ?

[Kiwi-E 731]

Wouldn't be silly to take the spring out and undo the sway bar on one side and jack the suspension up until it hits the bump stop to make sure the top ball joint isn't binding beforehand.

 

With my bumps removed it felt like the upper balljoint bound when the uca was about 10mm from the bump stop plate. So i ended up only trimming 10mm of my bump stops to be on the safe side. You might get away with how you have it but it would be reassuring to check.

 

My xe sits 20mm off the bumps in the front which is alright if your roads are not too rough.

[SPArKy_Dave 8,868]

The shock absorber will probably bottom out now,

before the control arm hits the 'modified' bump stop.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

i will see how it goes,i dont go on bad roads so it might just work ,if not then will continue with options.

[CHESTNUTXE 7,304]

Dam it went down further and chewed the guard as they were not lipped,im definatly going to higher springs.

[Banno 479]

Bugger! Just that part of guard or else where. If only that should be an easy fix without to much notice