XES 859 Posted August 23, 2013 Looking at getting an e series diff to fit into my XE. Just wondering if the calipers off an XE disc brake diff will fit onto an e series diff. Reason being that a diff I'm looking at has no calipers on it. And I have a set of braided brake hoses to suit an xe diff and I know that the e series have metric threads not imperial. Cheers Pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted August 23, 2013 Yes but with mods.. i did the same thing fitting an eb diff but kept my xf disc brakes. You will need to redrill the pcd on the backing plates as the tube ends are rotated about 90 degs. Then u will need to grind away a bit of the caliper slide pin boss as the allingment is different and with fresh pad they rub the pad on one side a cant remember which. Just needs a couple mm filed off it to allow it to slide further on the pin and free up the pad. The xf hard line fits the housing but the flexy uses a different mounting setup. I just zip tied mine to the backing plate. Or im sure u could fit new ends onto you flexy hose as they are metric. 2 revhead and XES reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted August 23, 2013 Oh and u will need ur rotors to suit ur calipers obviously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XES 859 Posted August 23, 2013 So its no to hard to do then. I'm sure i'll be able to get it sorted then. Thanks Clint. I've got rotors and all for the x series. Just haven't fitted it to the car. The one I have is a 2.77 lsd but i'm looking at a 3.27 to try and get a bit more pick up. I'm tipping that I'll need a tail shaft too now that I think about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hendrixhc 10,918 Posted August 23, 2013 Looking at getting an e series diff to fit into my XE. Just wondering if the calipers off an XE disc brake diff will fit onto an e series diff. Reason being that a diff I'm looking at has no calipers on it. And I have a set of braided brake hoses to suit an xe diff and I know that the e series have metric threads not imperial. Cheers Pete I recon i got a set of e series backing plates and calipers in the shed. 1 XES reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XES 859 Posted August 23, 2013 No probs James. I'll keep them in mind bud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revhead 1,392 Posted August 23, 2013 why bother just go with the e series and get the rubber line remade to save all the work ,i did e series into an xf years ago and went back to xf brakes it was a pain also just alter the e,series hand brake ratchets itl all work 2 Stevemack and XES reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XES 859 Posted August 23, 2013 why bother just go with the e series and get the rubber line remade to save all the work ,i did e series into an xf years ago and went back to xf brakes it was a pain also just alter the e,series hand brake ratchets itl all work Like I said Rev I've got a set of braided hoses for and xe diff. I'd like to use these if I can. I'm hearing you about it being easier but I don't mind a bit of work. If need be I'll do that and make a new set of braided hoses for those calipers and sell my other set.. I've never had an e series diff to look at before so I wasn't sure of what the difference are. 1 revhead reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted August 23, 2013 You will also need to fit a metric end on the flexi line to the T block on the housing to the body, then u will need the wider lower rear control arm bushes in your bottom arms. And yes a tailshaft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XES 859 Posted August 23, 2013 You will also need to fit a metric end on the flexi line to the T block on the housing to the body, then u will need the wider lower rear control arm bushes in your bottom arms. And yes a tailshaft. Fittings aren't a prob for me clint:D 3/8 X 24 male to 10 X 1 female adaptors are something I've made sure we have in stock at work. Wider bushes is something else I hadn't thought of thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,266 Posted August 23, 2013 on a similar topic, anyone know if AU brakes and EF are the same on the diff? i may be buying an AU diff with no brakes and have an EB and an EF diff here with brakes if they fit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom 6,650 Posted August 23, 2013 on a similar topic, anyone know if AU brakes and EF are the same on the diff? i may be buying an AU diff with no brakes and have an EB and an EF diff here with brakes if they fit? Afaik, Au will bolt onto Ef diff (the axles have the same spacing as e series from bearing to flange and the bolt pattern for the retainer appears to be the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted August 23, 2013 Yes will fit the diff housing but the au rotor is smaller and runs a different caliper, if u keep the same brake package then it should all align. The handbreak cable is longer but. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deankxf 20,266 Posted August 24, 2013 Afaik, Au will bolt onto Ef diff (the axles have the same spacing as e series from bearing to flange and the bolt pattern for the retainer appears to be the same that should work the other way then(EF brakes on the AU Diff) Yes will fit the diff housing but the au rotor is smaller and runs a different caliper, if u keep the same brake package then it should all align. The handbreak cable is longer but. its for My transit van that currently has a widened XF diff with drums... so a non modified housing with discs should be improved. hand brake will need to be remade anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adrianphu123 73 Posted August 24, 2013 I'll vouch for a 3.27, did the conversion and i cant believe i put up with a 2.92 for so long Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XES 859 Posted August 24, 2013 I'll vouch for a 3.27, did the conversion and i cant believe i put up with a 2.92 for so long Is that behind a 250? Mines a 302 but it should help a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xeeclipse 37 Posted August 24, 2013 Just get the A/F to metric adaptor off ABS brakes and whack a whole EB-ED rear end in it. The rear calipers assemblies off a XB-XF are an abortion, I can't seem to get the slide pins from seizing . EA-ED seize up in the hand brake worm drive but i've rarely seen the slide pins seize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted August 24, 2013 He doesnt have the brakes... though ive got a couple sets floating around in the shed. If u want i can box a set up and your away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XES 859 Posted August 24, 2013 The bloke im looking at getting the diff off may have a set there apparently. So I'll sell my braided hoses and make another set to suit the new diff I guess. Seems to be the way to go for the least hassles. Do e series brakes give better performance? Or not to noticeable because its the rear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n00bus m@x1mus 465 Posted August 24, 2013 Much of a muchness, they do rattle around a lot less, but look a bit uglier You will need an EB-ED handbrake cable to suit sedan if u use them brakes... or like me go pfftt!!! I stop with my feet not me hands! 3 Crazy2287, Ando81 and XES reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XES 859 Posted August 24, 2013 Much of a muchness, they do rattle around a lot less, but look a bit uglier You will need an EB-ED handbrake cable to suit sedan if u use them brakes... or like me go pfftt!!! I stop with my feet not me hands! Looks I don't really car about Clint. Your not going to see them behind the snowies anyway. As long as they work i'll be happy. I don't use the handbrake anyway. The handbrakes in x series are all shite!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt_lamb_160 252 Posted September 10, 2013 If your disks are rattling you may want to check your wheel bearings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revhead 1,392 Posted September 10, 2013 shame your not a little closer i got a whole eb lsd 3,25 diff you could have for $50 worth of wild turkey 101,s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy2287 1,886 Posted September 15, 2013 Just get the A/F to metric adaptor off ABS brakes and whack a whole EB-ED rear end in it. The rear calipers assemblies off a XB-XF are an abortion, I can't seem to get the slide pins from seizing . EA-ED seize up in the hand brake worm drive but i've rarely seen the slide pins seize. Try either PBR rubber grease or, Because the rubber grease is really shitty for squeezing out easily and not protecting, use a suitable grade type anti seize compound. Im not sure what will suit best, but copper and zinc are usually fairly good as a lubricant being softer than the parent metals As for the back breaks being better. Well obviously they are not vented. Downside. Upside, a lot cheaper to get slotted rotors for. I got my slotted rotors for $90 ea. I have yet to see how dominant they are now... but before i replaced the rotors, pads and caliper rebuild, the front left wheel would always lock up first under excessively hard breaking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricktewagon 39 Posted January 2, 2014 What about the putting a drum brake setup from an XD onto an E series diff? will this work to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
